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- From: daniel@scs.leeds.ac.uk (D N Crow)
- Subject: Re: RELIGION & PRESIDENTS
- References: <1993Jan21.102041.7378@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <93022.002158U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> <1johhhINNlt@gap.caltech.edu> <1jq02qINN5rq@fido.asd.sgi.com>
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- Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:51:34 GMT
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- In article <1jq02qINN5rq@fido.asd.sgi.com>, livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
- |> In article <1johhhINNlt@gap.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
- |> |> David James Alexander Hanley <U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
- |> |> > As a side note, i heard the prime minister of england is an atheist.
- |> |> >Is this true?? Wow, this could never happen here. Are there any more
- |> |> >freely-elected atheist high-powered officals? ( in the world ? )
- |> |>
- |> |> The English Prime Minister is not really freely elected. I think that
- |> |> he is chosen from among the majority party in the House of Commons.
- |>
- |> You don't mean "freely elected" you mean "directly elected". He does
- |> not run in a special election in the way that the US president does.
- |> Instead, he is elected leader of his party first, and then after a General
- |> Election the leader of the party that can control the legislature becomes
- |> Prime Minister.
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- This is usually true, but not necessarily. For example, when Maggie (Thatcher)
- resigned as leader of the Conservative party, she could have stayed on as
- Prime Minister. She resigned from that position also, and John Major was
- elected (by the Conservative MPs) as leader of the Conservative Party. He then
- became Prime Minister, as the Conservatives had a (large) majority on
- Parliament. It was 18 months until a general election at which we could
- specifically vote for a Conservative government lead by John Major.
-
- |> The electorate know who they are going to get for Prime
- |> Minister if they vote for X party. This is how most Pariamentary systems
- |> work. It's not special to the UK. [Note, not England, which has no
- |> Prime Minister of its own, but UK]
- |>
- |> Oh, and by the way, the original poster was probably thinking of Neil
- |> Kinnock, not John Major.
- |>
-
- I'm not sure if Kinnock (leader of the Labour party until the last general
- election. Labour are the second largest political party in the UK after the
- Conservatives) actually was an atheist. The previous leader, Michael Foot most
- definately *was* and he was quite open about it.
-
- I think there is a striking irony in the USA being unable (in effect) to
- elect a non-Christian President, despite its sensible constitution and the
- separation of church and state, when in poor old Britain with its established
- Christian church (Bishops of the Church of England automatically get a seat
- in the House of Lords, our upper chamber) being an atheist politician is no
- obstacle to becoming Prime Minister (or at the least, the leader of the
- opposition).
-
- --
- Dan Crow
- daniel@scs.leeds.ac.uk
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