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- From: I3150101@DBSTU1.RZ.TU-BS.DE (Benedikt Rosenau)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Re: Christian Pro-Choicers
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- Date: 26 Jan 93 12:27:01 GMT
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- In article <C1BwCB.G67@athena.cs.uga.edu>
- hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr) writes:
-
- >
- >In article <16B5E1208D.I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de> I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de
- >>So what, Paul is a prototype Fascist if there ever was one.
- >
- >What does Paul have to say about specific government types?
- >
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- Societies, social organisations can be 'Fascist' as well.
-
-
- >>Anyway, the case with agape has not been settled.
- >>Ie, the question is open if it refers to sexual practices of
- >>Jesus and his disciples. Note that they were all male at the
- >>end.
- >
- >Agape is also described as the kind of love we have for God, a Spirit.
- >Maybe you insinuated the above because the English word "love" can have
- >sexual connotations.
- >
-
- Nope, I have used the Greek word, and I have meant the Greek word.
- The point is to say that agape has only a spiritual meaning is an
- assumption. It does not necessarily follow. Those who want to have
- an asexual god think differently, of course.
-
-
-
- >>And I can show you passages in the bible which say that it is better not to be
- >>born, and being aborted counts as being better off, too. (Kohelet)
- >> Benedikt
- >
- >And many of these speak of miscarriages in the same way they speak of the
- >death of a grown man.
- >
-
- It speaks of people who have not been born at all in a similar way.
- What may I conclude now?
-
-
- >If you take a verse of Ecclesiastes out of context, you can get the wrong
- >idea. Qoheleth argues many sides of the same issues, and it all leads up
- >to the last few sentences of the book.
- >
-
- Ho hum, I have not taken it out of context, it says it there literally.
- Neither do I see where it is taken back.
-
- And that Qohelet has been edited in order to reduce its heretic notion
- which manifests by that the sentences you probably mean do not fit in,
- ie are inconsistent with the rest, is accepted even among Christian
- scholarship. By the way, those sentences are not the last sentences.
-
- The usual explanation is everybody who could not know about eternal life
- and whose view was restricted to the world is very likely to become
- pessimistic.
-
- Speaks for itself.
- Benedikt
-