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- From: epowers@mccoy (POWERS)
- Subject: Re: Big Questions (or, Why I am not a Christian)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.233642.2780@nmsu.edu>
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- Organization: New Mexico State University
- References: <justinf-210193174700@macintosh50.cco.caltech.edu>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:36:42 GMT
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- In article <justinf-210193174700@macintosh50.cco.caltech.edu>
- justinf@cco.caltech.edu (Justin Fang) writes:
- > In article <1993Jan18.051019.5072@nmsu.edu>, epowers@mccoy (POWERS)
- wrote:
- > > In article <justinf-150193175343@macintosh50.cco.caltech.edu>
- > > justinf@cco.caltech.edu (Justin Fang) writes:
- >
- > [my question on universe, purpose of, deleted.]
- > > > Any thoughts?
- >
- > > Yes, actually, I do. What does this have to do with Christian
- > > doctrines? As far as I know, the Bible makes no claims about the
- purpose
- > > of "the rest of the universe". Evolutionary theory makes no claims
- about
- > > life on other planets except a few vague comments on the probability.
- > > Evolution theory has very little to do with the rest of the universe,
- yet
- > > you accept it here, while on the same hand rejecting another set of
- ideas
- > > that also has little to do with the rest of the universe. What is the
- > > difference?
- > > Erik Powers
- >
- > Did I ever say I rejected it? I didn't think I specified Christianity. I
- > just wanted to know how a near-infinite universe fit into Earth's
- decidely
- > anthropocentric religions. For instance, in the OT there's the bits
- about
- > how God made us in his image, and about chosen people, etc, etc. Did
- Jesus
- > have to die once for every intelligent species in the galaxy? (That's a
- lot
- > of times... :) And the bits in Revelations about the world ending... is
- > that just this world or the entire universe? (this last question is a
- > problem mainly for fundies)...etc., etc. I'm not singleing Christianity
- out
- > for attack, it's just the religion I'm most familiar with.
- >
- > Justin Fang (justinf@cco.caltech.edu)
- > This space intentionally left blank.
-
- I wish now I had kept a copy of your previous post, as I remember
- you using examples that seemed specific to Christianity, but I don't
- remember what they were. But I'm glad you clarified the fact that you
- wanted to ask a more generalized question than I thought.
- I really don't know of a single religion that addresses the size
- of the physical universe at any length. All the ones I'm more or less
- familiar with seem totally unconcerned with it. Theistic religions, I
- think, would mostly consider their god or gods to be so much bigger and
- more powerful than nature that our universe's size would be an
- insignificant question. Christianity, at least, seems to see it this way.
- Interestingly, Christianity also claims the existence of other intelligent
- "beings" besides ourselves, not just off-planet, but also right here on
- earth. I can see a problem for Christian fundamentalists if someone were
- to claim that no intelligent life but ours exists in the entire universe,
- but there is certainly no conlict with the claim that such life "must"
- exist somewhere out there.
- In this respect, I don't know that much about other religions, but
- I do know that Christianity is supposed to be a religion for people, for
- humans. (C.S. Lewis did address the question about a Christian's
- responsibility should we ever find other intelligent life, and it made an
- interesting essay.) It seems to indicate that the other intelligent life
- may find the situation on earth to be interesting, but hard to understand.
- ("Even angels long to look into these things...")
- So, after all that, I guess I would just have to say that
- Christianity, at least, is supposed to be a religion that deals with the
- spiritual problems of people, and so is quite naturally "anthropocentric",
- in the sense of the word as you use it. I'm not sure why it would
- surprise you.
- Erik Powers
-