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- From: "James F. Tims" <p00168@psilink.com>
- Subject: Re: Atheism in pop culture
- In-Reply-To: <1jvr18INN945@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>
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- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:58:00 GMT
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- >FROM: Geoff Arnold Sun BOS - R.H. coast near the top <geoff@poori.East.Sun.COM>
- >
- >Try almost anything by Crass (the best punk band that ever was). Check
-
- [...]
- >Actually, a fair amount of the material that's been mentioned in this
- >thread is antitheist rather than atheist. It doesn't make much sense
-
- I tried imagining the alternative -- PRO-atheist without reference to
- god or religion. Couldn't do it. Null makes for boring artistic
- embellishment! 8^(
-
- I would expect a truly atheistic tune would give no evidence of god, say
- "Mack the Knife". People getting fit with concrete shoes, blood
- everywhere, death and destruction rampant, and no one saying, "Dear GOD,
- save me from Mack." or "God rest his soul." for the Knife's victims.
- Quantum Mechanics: "Five'll getcha ten old Macky's back in town." 8^)
- (I picked this particular tune because I think it fits the theistic
- vision of the cruel, amoral atheist. Without God, we're all just like
- Macky and his crowd, living dirty little lives in the shadowy underworld
- of vice and crime.)
-
- >blaming Jesus for being a "petulant child... wrapped in the bloody
- >shroud of churlish suicide" who "scooped the pits of Auschwitz" if you
- >don't believe that he was connected in some way to a deity. The
- >assertion "god is evil" is not consistent with atheism.
- >
-
- God[any] = X, where X = !null, is inconsistent with atheism for all X.
-
- For the claim, God = !evil, evidence that God = evil shows that, at a
- minimum, God is multiply/improperly defined, if not an extraneous
- variable. Get in your favorite brain editor, remove all references to
- god in all subroutines, and see if your life doesn't run better. Free up
- resources for other programs (classical guitar, chess, and golf are a lot
- more fun than praying, in my particular case).
-
- Actually, I keep the variable active and define it either:
- God = funny or God = !funny, depending. I just don't pay the shareware
- fees.
-
- -jim
-
-