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- From: wilkins@scubed.com (Darin Wilkins)
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- Subject: Re: Ontological argument...
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.092649.6404@scubed.com>
- Date: 25 Jan 93 09:26:49 GMT
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- Alan Blair writes:
-
- >The basic ontological argument for the existence of god goes along
- >these lines...
-
- >"God is conceived as being perfect; non-existence would be an
- >imperfection; thus God must exist"
-
- >The crux of the matter is getting from the conceptual perfect being to
- >the real one, and while the version above is clearly bollocks I
- >remember hearing a better phrased one, that needed more thought to
- >straighten out just WHY it was wrong. This post is a request for a
- >sounder phrasing... mail or post, take your pick.
-
- >(While it may sound like a stupid argument, the more convoluted forms
- >of the ontological argument can really wrap your brain around itself
- >trying to unravel them.
-
- I don't know the phrasing of the version that you are looking for.
- But instead of wracking your brain trying to unravel some of the more
- convoluted forms of it, try replacing the 'God' entity in the argument
- with the entity 'Invisible Pink Unicorns'. For example, in the version
- you post above:
-
- "Invisible Pink Unicorns are conceived as being perfect; non-existence
- would be an imperfection; thus Invisible Pink Unicorns must exist"
-
- A convincing argument, wouldn't you say?
-
- (BTW, this idea is not original with me. Someone on the net - I don't
- recall who - suggested this a couple of years ago. Does anyone recall
- who it was?)
-
- darin
- wilkins@scubed.scubed.com
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