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- From: I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau)
- Subject: Re: contradictory nature of free will and omni-anything
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- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 13:51:43 GMT
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- In article <1jkjigINNf5s@kralizec.zeta.org.au>
- mikeh@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Michael Hore) writes:
-
- >2. We experience free will. It seems to us that we have it. In the
- >absence of any compelling argument to the contrary, shouldn't we apply
- >Occam's Razor and say that free will is real?
- >
-
- Can you give a definition of free will?
-
- And Occam's Razor works only for things that are necessary for a theory.
- Can you show that Free Will is necessary in the sense of being a base
- of *valid* predictions in your system?
-
-
- And as far as Occam's razor goes, I have the following question:
-
- 1. We have free will, and by free will, we think we have free will.
- 2. We have no free will, and it forces us to think we have free will.
- 3. We have free will, and through it we think we heve no free will.
- 4. We have no free will, and it forces us to think we have no free will.
-
- Could you name experiments that allow to distinguish between these?
-
-
- And I do not experience Free Will. The things I decide for are bound
- by many variables which not only affect my decision, in a sense they
- determine my decision. And I do not know if this process is affected
- by random effects at quantum level, nor do I experience that I
- somehow 'steer' these effects in order to come by the determination
- given by my knowledge of a certain situation.
- Benedikt
-