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From: [e-mail] (Robert Beauchaine)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Re: God exists. Proof within.
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Date: 22 Jan 93 19:43:31 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeffrey Richard Lamb) writes:
>
>>I could poke other holes as well, but these seem large enough to drive
>>trucks through.
>
>Unless I'm mistaken, I have closed said holes. Try again. (Hey, your
>letter was flamin'. I get to flame too. :-) )
>

  Then perhaps you wouldn't mind tackling some of these.  And
  remember, to validate your point, you have to rationalize each and
  every potential error in this list.  We'll then let you know if
  your answer is satisfactory.


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>God good to all, or just a few?
PSA 145:9  The LORD is good to all: and his  tender  mercies  are
over all his works.

JER 13:14  And I will dash them one against another, even the fa-
thers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor
spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
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>War or Peace?
EXO 15:3  The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

ROM 15:33  Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
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> Who is the father of Joseph?

MAT 1:16  And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was
born Jesus, who is called Christ.

LUK 3:23  And Jesus himself began to be  about  thirty  years  of
age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son
of Heli,

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> Who was at the Empty Tomb?  Is it :

MAT 28:1  In the end of the sabbath, as it began to  dawn  toward
the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary
to see the sepulchre.

MAR 16:1  And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary
the  mother  of  James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that
they might come and anoint him.

JOH 20:1  The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene  early,
when  it  was  yet  dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone
taken away from the sepulchre.

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>Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?

JOH 10:30  I and my Father are one.

JOH 14:28  Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come
again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said,
I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

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>which first--beasts or man?

GEN 1:25  And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and
cattle  after  their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the
earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image,  after  our
likeness:  and  let  them have dominion over the fish of the sea,
and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and  over  all
the  earth,  and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the
earth.

GEN 2:18  And the LORD God said, It is  not  good  that  the  man
should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
GEN 2:19  And out of the ground the LORD God formed  every  beast
of  the  field,  and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto
Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever  Adam  called
every living creature, that was the name thereof.
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>number of beasts in the ark

GEN 7:2  Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by  sevens,
the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two,
the male and his female.

GEN 7:8  Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not  clean,  and
of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth,
GEN 7:9  There went in two and two unto Noah into  the  ark,  the
male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.
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>how many stalls and horsemen?

KI1 4:26  And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his
chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.

CH2 9:25  And Solomon had four thousand  stalls  for  horses  and
chariots,  and  twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the
chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.
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>folly to be wise or not?

PRO 4:7  Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and
with all thy getting get understanding.

ECC 1:18  For in much wisdom is  much  grief:  and  he  that  in-
creaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

1 Cor.1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and wil
bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."
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>human vs. ghostly impregnation

ACT 2:30  Therefore being a prophet, and  knowing  that  God  had
sworn  with  an  oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, ac-
cording to the flesh, he would raise up  Christ  to  sit  on  his
throne;

MAT 1:18  Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as
his  mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came togeth-
er, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
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>sins of the father

ISA 14:21  Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of
their  fathers;  that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor
fill the face of the world with cities.

DEU 24:16  The fathers shall not be put to death  for  the  chil-
dren, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers:
every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
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>The bat is not a bird.

LEV 11:13  And these are they which ye shall have in  abomination
among  the  fowls;  they shall not be eaten, they are an abomina-
tion: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
LEV 11:14  And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
LEV 11:15  Every raven after his kind;
LEV 11:16  And the owl, and the night hawk, and the  cuckow,  and
the hawk after his kind,
LEV 11:17  And the little owl, and the cormorant, and  the  great
owl,
LEV 11:18  And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
LEV 11:19  And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapw-
ing, and the bat.

DEU 14:11  Of all clean birds ye shall eat.
DEU 14:12  But these are they of which ye shall not eat: the  ea-
gle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
DEU 14:13  And the glede, and the kite, and the vulture after his
kind,
DEU 14:14  And every raven after his kind,
DEU 14:15  And the owl, and the night hawk, and the  cuckow,  and
the hawk after his kind,
DEU 14:16  The little owl, and the great owl, and the swan,
DEU 14:17  And the pelican, and the  gier  eagle,  and  the  cor-
morant,
DEU 14:18  And the stork, and the heron after her kind,  and  the
lapwing, and the bat.
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>Rabbits do not chew their cud.

LEV 11:6  And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but  divideth
not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

'Gerah', the term which appears in the MT means (chewed) cud, and
also perhaps grain, or berry (also a 20th of a sheckel, but I think
that we can agree that that is irrelevant here). It does *not* mean
dung, and there is a perfectly adequate Hebrew word for that, which
could have been used. Furthermore, the phrase translated 'chew the cud'
in the KJV is more exactly 'bring up the cud'. Rabbits do not bring
up anything; they let it go all the way through, then eat it again.
The description given in Leviticus is inaccurate, and that's that.
Rabbits do eat their own dung; they do not bring anything up and
chew on it.
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> Insects do NOT have four feet.

LEV 11:21  Yet these may ye eat of every  flying  creeping  thing
that  goeth  upon  all four, which have legs above their feet, to
leap withal upon the earth;
LEV 11:22  Even these of them ye may eat; the  locust  after  his
kind,  and  the  bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after
his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.
LEV 11:23  But all other flying creeping things, which have  four
feet, shall be an abomination unto you.
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>Snails do not melt.

PSA 58:8  As a snail which melteth, let every one  of  them  pass
away:  like  the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see
the sun.
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>fowl from waters or ground?

GEN 1:20  And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the
moving  creature  that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the
earth in the open firmament of heaven.
GEN 1:21  And God created great whales, and every living creature
that  moveth,  which  the  waters brought forth abundantly, after
their kind, and every winged fowl after his  kind:  and  God  saw
that it was good.

GEN 2:19  And out of the ground the LORD God formed  every  beast
of  the  field,  and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto
Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever  Adam  called
every living creature, that was the name thereof.
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> odd genetic engineering

GEN 30:39  And the flocks conceived before the rods, and  brought
forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.
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>shape of the earth

ISA 40:22  It is he that sitteth upon the circle  of  the  earth,
and  the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth
out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to
dwell in:

MAT 4:8  Again, the devil taketh him up into  an  exceeding  high
mountain,  and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the
glory of them;

Astromical bodies are spherical, and you cannot see the entire exterior
surface from anyplace.  The kingdoms of Egypt, China, Greece, Crete,
sections of Asia Minor, India, Maya (in Mexico), Carthage (North
Africa), Rome (Italy), Korea, and other settlements from these
kingdoms of the world were widely distributed.
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>Snakes, while built low, do not eat dirt.

GEN 3:14  And the LORD God said unto the  serpent,  Because  thou
hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every
beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust  shalt
thou eat all the days of thy life:
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>earth supported?

JOB 26:7  He stretcheth out the north over the empty  place,  and
hangeth the earth upon nothing.

JOB 38:4  Where wast thou when I  laid  the  foundations  of  the
earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

>Heaven, too...
}JOB 26:11  The pillars of heaven tremble and  are  astonished  at
}his reproof.
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>hydrological cycle

ECC 1:7  All the rivers run into the sea;  yet  the  sea  is  not
full;  unto  the  place from whence the rivers come, thither they
return again.

JOB 38:22  Hast thou entered into the treasures of the  snow?  or
hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,

Storehouses are not part of the cycle
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} order of creastion
Here is the order in the first (Genesis 1), the Priestly tradition:

Day 1: Sky, Earth, light
Day 2: Water, both in ocean basins and above the sky(!)
Day 3: Plants
Day 4: Sun, Moon, stars (as calendrical and navigational aids)
Day 5: Sea monsters (whales), fish, birds, land animals,
creepy-crawlies (reptiles, insects, etc.)
Day 6: Humans (apparently both sexes at the same time)
Day 7: Nothing (the Gods took the first day off anyone ever did)

    Note that there are "days", "evenings", and "mornings" before
the Sun was created. Here, the Deity is referred to as "Elohim", which
is a plural, thus the literal translation, "the Gods". In this tale,
the Gods seem satisfied with what they have done, saying after each
step that "it was good".

The second one (Genesis 2), the Yahwist tradition, goes:

Earth and heavens (misty)
Adam, the first man (on a desolate Earth)
Plants
Animals
Eve, the first woman (from Adam's rib)

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How orderly were things created?
#1: Step-by-step. The only discrepancy is that there is no Sun or Moon
or stars on the first three "days".
#2: God fixes things up as he goes. The first man is lonely, and is
not satisfied with animals. God finally creates a woman for him.
(funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)
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How satisfied with creation was he?
#1: God says "it was good" after each of his labors, and rests on the
seventh day, evidently very satisfied.
#2: God has to fix up his creation as he goes, and he would certainly
not be very satisfied with the disobedience of that primordial couple.
(funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)
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> Moses's personality
Num.12:3: "Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon
the fact of the earth."

 Num.31:14, 17, 18: "And Moses was wroth...And Moses said unto them, "Have ye
saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little
ones, and kill every woman, ... But all the women children ... keep alive for
yourselves."
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>righteous live?

Ps.92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."

Isa.57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."
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Acts 1:18: "Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of
iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his
bowels gushed out."

Matt. 27:5-7: "And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple,
and departed, and went and hanged himself.  And the chief priests...bought
with them the potter's field."
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>Jesus' first sermon plain or mount?
Matt.5:1,2: "And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when
he was set, his disciples came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and taught
them, saying...."
Luke6:17,20: "And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the
company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people...came to hear him..
And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said..."
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>Jesus' last words

Matt.27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice,
saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast
thou forsaken me?"  ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded u
the ghost."

Luke23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto
thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

John19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is
finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."
!@#
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>years of famine

II SAMUEL 24:13: So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall
SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three
months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?

I CHRONICLES 21:11:  SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the
LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destryed
before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;
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>moved David to anger?
II SAMUEL 24: And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel,
and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Isreal and Judah.

I CHRONICLES 21: And SATAN stood up against Isreal, and provoked David to
number Israel.
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>The GENEALOGY OF JESUS?
In two places in the New Testament the genealogy of Jesus son of Mary (PBUH)
is mentioned. Matthew 1:6-16 and Luke 3:23-31. Each gives the ancestors of
Joseph the CLAIMED husband of Mary and Step father of Jesus(PBUH). The first
one starts from Abraham(verse 2) all the way down to Jesus. The second
one from Jesus all the way back to Adam. The only common name to these two
lists between David and Jesus is JOSEPH, How can this be true?  and also
How can Jesus have a genealogy when all Muslims and most Christians believe
that Jesus had/has no father.
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>God be seen?
 Exod. 24:9,10; Amos 9:1; Gen.  26:2; and John 14:9
 God CAN be seen:
    "And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts."
    (Ex. 33:23)
    "And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his
    friend." (Ex. 33:11)
    "For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved."
    (Gen. 32:30)
God CANNOT be seen:
    "No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18)
    "And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man
    see me and live." (Ex. 33:20)
    "Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1 Tim. 6:16)
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>CRUEL, UNMERCIFUL, DESTRUCTIVE, and FEROCIOUS or KIND, MERCIFUL, and GOOD:
    "I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (Jer. 13:14)
    "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and
    spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."

    "The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy." (James 5:11)
    "For his mercy endureth forever." (1 Chron. 16:34)
    "The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his
    works." (Ps. 145:9)
    "God is love." (1 John 4:16)
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>tempts?
    "And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham."
    (Gen 22:1)

    "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God
    cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (James 1:13)
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>Judas died how?
    "And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed,
    and went out and hanged himself." (Matt. 27:5)

    "And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his
    bowels gushed out." (Acts 1:18)
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> ascend to heaven
    "And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." (2 Kings 2:11)

    "No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven,
    ... the Son of Man." (John 3:13)
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What was Jesus' prediction regarding Peter's denial?

Before the cock crow - Matthew 26:34

Before the cock crow twice - Mark 14:30
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>How many times did the cock crow?

MAR 14:72  And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to
mind  the  word  that  Jesus  said unto him, Before the cock crow
twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he
wept.

MAT 26:74  Then began he to curse and to swear,  saying,  I  know
not the man. And immediately the cock crew.
MAT 26:75  And Peter remembered the word  of  Jesus,  which  said
unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he
went out, and wept bitterly.

LUK 22:60  And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest.  And
immediately, while he yet spake, the cock crew.
LUK 22:61  And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter. And  Peter
remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before
the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.

JOH 13:38  Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my
sake?  Verily,  verily, I say unto thee, The cock shall not crow,
still thou hast denied me thrice.

JOH 18:27  Peter then denied  again:  and  immediately  the  cock
crew.

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>who killed Saul

SA1 31:4  Then said Saul unto his armourbearer, Draw  thy  sword,
and  thrust  me  through therewith; lest these uncircumcised come
and thrust me through, and abuse me. But his  armourbearer  would
not;  for  he  was  sore afraid. Therefore Saul took a sword, and
fell upon it.
SA1 31:5  And when his armourbearer saw that Saul  was  dead,  he
fell likewise upon his sword, and died with him.
SA1 31:6  So Saul died, and his three sons, and his armourbearer,
and all his men, that same day together.


SA2 1:15  And David called one of the young  men,  and  said,  Go
near, and fall upon him. And he smote him that he died.

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>How many beatitudes in the Sermon on the Mount

MAT 5:3  Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the  king-
dom of heaven.
MAT 5:4  Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be  comfort-
ed.
MAT 5:5  Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
MAT 5:6  Blessed are  they  which  do  hunger  and  thirst  after
righteousness: for they shall be filled.
MAT 5:7  Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
MAT 5:8  Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
MAT 5:9  Blessed are the peacemakers: for they  shall  be  called
the children of God.
MAT 5:10  Blessed are they which are  persecuted  for  righteous-
ness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
MAT 5:11  Blessed are ye, when men shall  revile  you,  and  per-
secute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely,
for my sake.

LUK 6:20  And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples,  and  said,
Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
LUK 6:21  Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled.
Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
LUK 6:22  Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when  they
shall  separate  you  from their company, and shall reproach you,
and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
LUK 6:23  Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for,  behold,
your  reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their
fathers unto the prophets.

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>Does every man sin?

KI1 8:46  If they sin against thee, (for there  is  no  man  that
sinneth  not,)  and  thou be angry with them, and deliver them to
the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of
the enemy, far or near;

CH2 6:36  If they sin against thee, (for there is  no  man  which
sinneth  not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them over
before their enemies, and they carry them away  captives  unto  a
land far off or near;

PRO 20:9  Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from
my sin?

ECC 7:20  For there is not a just  man  upon  earth,  that  doeth
good, and sinneth not.

JO1 1:8  If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
the truth is not in us.
JO1 1:9  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to  for-
give us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
JO1 1:10  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a  liar,
and his word is not in us.

JO1 3:9  Whosoever is born of God doth not commit  sin;  for  his
seed  remaineth  in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of
God.
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>who bought potter's field

ACT 1:18  Now this man purchased a field with the reward of  ini-
quity;  and  falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and
all his bowels gushed out.
ACT 1:19  And it was known unto all the  dwellers  at  Jerusalem;
insomuch  as that field is called in their proper tongue, Acelda-
ma, that is to say, The field of blood.

MAT 27:6  And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said,
It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is
the price of blood.
MAT 27:7  And  they  took  counsel,  and  bought  with  them  the
potter's field, to bury strangers in.
MAT 27:8  Wherefore that field was called, The  field  of  blood,
unto this day.

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>Who prophesied the potter's field
Matthew 27:9-10  (mentions Jeremy but no such verse in Jeremiah)
is in Zechariah 11:12-13
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>who bears guilt?

GAL 6:2  Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law  of
Christ.

GAL 6:5  For every man shall bear his own burden.

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>Do you answer a fool?

PRO 26:4  Answer not a fool according to  his  folly,  lest  thou
also be like unto him.

PRO 26:5  Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he  be  wise
in his own conceit.

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> How many children did Michal, the daughter of Saul, have?

SA2 6:23  Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto
the day of her death.

SA2 21:8  But the king took the two sons of Rizpah  the  daughter
of  Aiah,  whom  she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and
the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up
for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite:

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>How old whas Jehoiachin when he began to reign?

KI2 24:8  Jehoiachin was eighteen years  old  when  he  began  to
reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's
name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.


CH2 36:9  Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to  reign,
and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did
that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.

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>marriage?
Proverbs 18:22
1 Corinthians 7 (whole book.  See 1,2,27,39,40)
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>Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?

ACT 9:7  And the men which journeyed with him  stood  speechless,
hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

ACT 22:9  And they that were with me saw indeed  the  light,  and
were  afraid;  but  they heard not the voice of him that spake to
me.

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>Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?

MAR 1:12  And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilder-
ness.

JOH 1:35  Again the next day after John stood,  and  two  of  his
disciples;

(various trapsing)

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>How many apostles were in office between the resurection and ascention
1 Corinthians 15:5 (12)
Matthew 27:3-5 (minus one from 12)
Acts 1:9-26 (Mathias not elected until after resurrection)

MAT 28:16  Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into
a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
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Judging
1 Cor 3:15 " The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself
is not subject to any man's judgment:" (NIV)

1 Cor 4:5 " Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the
Lord comes.  He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose
the motives of men's hearts.  At that time each will receive his praise from
God."

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Good deeds
Matt 5:16 "In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see
your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven." (NIV)

Matt 6:3-4 "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what
your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secert.  Then your
Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."  (NIV)

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>for or against?

MAT 12:30  He that is not with me is  against  me;  and  he  that
gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
(default is against)

MAR 9:40  For he that is not against us is on our part.
(default is for)

LUK 9:50  And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is
not against us is for us.
(default is for)

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Whom did they see at the tomb?


MAT 28:2  And, behold, there was  a  great  earthquake:  for  the
angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back
the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
MAT 28:3  His countenance was like  lightning,  and  his  raiment
white as snow:
MAT 28:4  And for fear of him the keepers did shake,  and  became
as dead men.
MAT 28:5  And the angel answered and said unto  the  women,  Fear
not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.

MAR 16:5  And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a  young  man
sitting  on  the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and
they were affrighted.


LUK 24:4  And it came  to  pass,  as  they  were  much  perplexed
thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:

JOH 20:12  And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at  the
head,  and  the  other  at  the feet, where the body of Jesus had
lain.

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>God change?
malachi 3:6
james 1:17
1 samuel 15:29
jonah 3:10
genesis 6:6
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>destruction of cities (what said was jeremiah was zechariah)

MAT 27:9  Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy  the
prophet,  saying,  And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the
price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel
did value;


zechariah 11:11-13
(nothing in Jeremiah remotely like)
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>who's sepulchres
acts 7:16
genesis 23:17,18
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>strong drink?
proverbs 31:6,7
john 2:11-11
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>When second coming?

MAT 24:34  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled.

MAR 13:30  Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall  not
pass, till all these things be done.



LUK 21:32  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not  pass
away, till all be fulfilled.

1 thessalonians 4:15-18
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Solomon's overseers

550 in I Kings 9:23

250 in II Chron 8:10

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The mother of Abijah:

Maachah the daughter of Absalom  2 Chron 9:20

Michaiah the daughter of Uriel 2 Chron 13:2

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When did Baasha die?

26th year of the reign of Asa I Kings 16:6-8

36th year of the reign of Asa I 2 Chron 16:1

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How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?

22 in 2 Kings 8:26

42 in 2 Chron 22:2

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WHo was Josiah's successor?

Jehoahaz - 2 Chron 36:1

Shallum - Jeremiah 22:11

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The differences in the census figures of Ezra and Nehemiah.

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What was the color of the robe placed on Jesus during his trial?

scarlet - Matthew 27:28

purple John 19:2

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What did they give him to drink?

vinegar - Matthew 27:34

wine with myrrh - Mark 15:23


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Bob Beauchaine [e-mail]

"Look, I tried the cat experiment.  On the third trial, the cat was
dead.  On each of the subsequent 413 trials, it remained dead.  Am I
doing something wrong?"
            James Nicoll

Q.  How many Heisenbergs does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A.  If you know the number, you don't know where the light bulb is!