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- From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
- Subject: Re: Constructing a Logical Argument (long)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.072510.20684@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>
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- Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
- References: <1993Jan21.190024.591@doc.bmd.trw.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 07:25:10 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan21.190024.591@doc.bmd.trw.com> jbrown@doc.bmd.trw.com writes:
- >"A flood as described in the Bible would require an enormous volume of water
- >to be present on the earth. The earth does not have a tenth as much water,
- >even if we count that which is frozen into ice at the poles. Therefore no
- >such flood occurred."
- > Your statement above, intended to illustrate Denial of the Consequent
- > (if I have my terms correct), actually includes the fallacy of hidden
- > assumptions. The hidden assumption is that the topography of the earth
- > has not significantly altered since just before the time of the Flood.
- > Actually, we do not know if such a change occurred or not.
-
- If what you have pointed out is indeed a fallacy, consider that an argument
- about the roundness of the earth contains the hidden assumption that light
- doesn't bend in exactly the way to make the flat earth look round from space,
- the hidden assumption that the people who claim to have circumnavigated it
- are not lying, etc.
-
- A hidden assumption that something did _not_ happen is not a hidden assumption
- at all; the burden of proof is on you to prove that something happened.
-
- >SHIFTING THE BURDEN OF PROOF
- >The burden of proof is always on the person making an assertion or
- >proposition. Shifting the burden of proof, a special case of argumentum ad
- >ignorantium, is the fallacy of putting the burden of proof on the person who
- >denies or questions the assertion being made. The source of the fallacy is
- >the assumption that something is true unless proven otherwise.
-
- See?
- --
- "On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me... Leftover Turkey!
- On the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me... Turkey Casserole
- that she made from Leftover Turkey.
- [days 3-4 deleted] ... Flaming Turkey Wings! ...
- -- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu/A*gic bait)
-
- Ken Arromdee (arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu, arromdee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu)
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