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- From: Simon.N.McRae@dartmouth.edu (Simon N McRae)
- Subject: Faith on Trial... and Winning!?/ Dostoevski
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- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:20:48 GMT
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- I haven't read The Brothers Karamazov for at least four years. I
- remember certain parts very distinctly; other parts are hazy. Anyway,
- I'd be interested to get some feeback on the following comments and
- questions, from either atheists or theists.
-
- 1. IVAN FYODOROVICH'S STORY OF THE GRAND INQUISITOR. I cannot for the
- life of me remember the gist of his argument against God, only
- fragments. In any case, can someone briefly present and then comment
- on the argument? I mean, was it a typical 19th century anti-religion
- argument, or rather something wholly unique? Is the argument flawed
- somehow? Do some of its tactics still get used today? I remember
- agreeing with most of it, but then it wouldn't take much to gain my
- sympathy for such a stance. In general, though, is it persuasive?
-
- 2. FATHER ZOSIMA. I am an atheist, nevertheless I was deeply moved by
- what Father Zosima had to say. Funny, but I remeber this better then
- the Grand Inquisitor. Toward the beginning of the book, Father Zosima
- receives commoners in front of his cabin at the monastery. One woman
- tells him that her young boy has just recently died from some illness,
- and that his death has really devastated the whole family. She then
- asks Zosima why the child had to die, being that he did nothing wrong
- and all. Father Zosima replies with a speech of perfect understanding
- and poignancy, really a beautiful moment in the book. Later on, he
- also gives a wonderful account of how unconditional love serves as the
- basis for our experience of God's mercy. Of course there is a lot more
- to his faith that I cannot recall. My question: how out of line were
- his religious ideas with the orthodoxy? I know Father Fieropont, the
- conservative one, didn't much care for Zosima. And, deconstructionist
- arguments against authorial intention aside, does this represent what
- Dostoevski himself felt in any way?
- Later on Ivan Fyodorovich also brings up the needless suffering of
- innocent children as argument against God. How does Alyosha reply?
-
- Thanks in advance for any replies. IMHO, there are some points the
- book raises which are really compelling.
-
- Simon.
-