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- From: tfpayn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
- Subject: Re: Chicago cul-de-sacs
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- Message-ID: <1993Jan26.105853.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:58:53 GMT
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- References: <churayj-240193115418@morse-college-kstar-node.net.yale.edu> <1k2fk6INNf66@uwm.edu>
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- In article <1k2fk6INNf66@uwm.edu>, sod@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Sean M O Donnell) writes:
- > From article <churayj-240193115418@morse-college-kstar-node.net.yale.edu>, by churayj@yalevm.edu (raymond Chung):
- >> Hello.
- >>
- >> Have you heard about Mayor Daley's plan to section off as much of Chicago
- >> as he can in order to stem crime? He wants to put up fences or concrete
- >> barriers at the ends of roads to corner criminals and to stop drive-by
- >> shootings, etc. Other cities have done similar things in certain areas, but
- >> the Chicago plan is to cordon off the entire city into little chunks.
- >>
- >> Now my question is this, is the future of urban design going to be shaped
- >> by the pressures of crime? (Or is it already, and I'm just too much an
- >> amateur to know that?)
- >
- > I would assume that security has always been an issue. Oscar Newman's book
- > _Defensible Space, Crime Prevention Through Urban Design_ was written in
- > 1972, so this topic isn't that new. Daley's plan, what little that I know
- > about it, sounds like a solution that might have been cooked up in the 1950's
- > though. Killing off traffic will probably increase the possibility for
- > crime and it will probably force the closure of a lot of businesses that
- > rely on through traffic, resulting in... more crime.
- >
- >>
-
- I agree wholly. The sectioning off of the city will just create
- concentrations of problems, as well as 'imprisoning' some people/groups by
- limiting access/exit from their 'area'.
-
- The military concept was acceptable 100-200 years ago, but that was
- when the most of the city was in a 3-4 mile square area. This is 1992, and
- those kind of tactics won't work.
-
- And I agree on the traffic difficulties. It won't limit the problems,
- it'll force them to be more mobile!
-
- So much for 'political' development, eh?
-
- Have you also noticed the change in the early '80's from low level
- buildings to the increase in construction of highrise facilities? Or is it
- just me...that a 'Renessaince' occured was scared away.....
-
- OH well, so much for 'peace on earth'...(heh heh)...
-
- "I've got one word for you: Bladerunner"
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