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- From: llama@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
- Newsgroups: alt.angst
- Subject: feminism (was re:something or other else)
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- Date: 26 Jan 93 04:13:26 GMT
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- in a masterpiece of oversimplification,
- paleblue@byron.u.washington.edu (Hermes) writes:
-
- : you know. That feminism stuff. Brownmiller and Steinem and Stein and
- : Anthony and so on. It's like this theory where men control everything
- : and so women aren't really free they're just doing what men want.
-
- um, that's not a terribly accurate statement.
-
- "it's like this theory where men control everything"
-
- look around. women are supposed to be thrilled because this year there
- are 6 of us in the us senate. half the population, and we command a
- whole 6% of the senate. oh, baby. all the major ceo's are male. the
- vast majority of heads of state are male. the vast majority of heads
- of institutions (colleges, universities, hospitals) are male. men are
- in control of most of the power structures in our society.
-
- (and before guys start in with "i'm male and i don't control
- anything", please note that men controlling things doesn't mean that
- all men have power; it means that the people with power are men, and
- they're inclined to maintain the status quo, which means policies that
- tend to favor males gaining power.)
-
- "and so women aren't really free"
-
- depends on how you define free. certainly we have more freedom than we
- did 20 years ago, when i woman couldn't get a bank loan or a credit
- card without having a husband or father co-sign for her. but barriers
- do still exist, and those barriers limit the freedom of women to
- attain their full potential.
-
- "they're just doing what men want"
-
- again, depends on how you look at it. women in our society tend to end
- up being dependent on the goodwill of men to get ahead (or even to get
- by). so yeah, a lot of times, women put up with shit and don't say
- anything and allow themselves to be exploited in the name of survival.
- in a sense, that's "just doing what men want."
-
- gender inequity is a huge problem in our society still... it's just
- that things have improved a lot and that makes it easier to not-see
- the areas where things could still stand some change...
-
- --
- sine | deb
- "if you can't fuck it and it doesn't dance,
- eat it or throw it away." -- pat cadigan
-