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- From: harelb@math.cornell.edu
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- Date: 20 Jan 93 16:52 PST
- Subject: Re: MAP/MIM: AI on Sendero Lumenoso (SL
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- From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (Harel Barzilai)
- Subject: Re: MAP/MIM: AI on Sendero Lumenoso (SL)
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- Dear Hank,
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- To: pnews@igc.org
- Subject:
- --text follows this line--
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- I ask that the four items posted to gen.socialism today, particularly
- the AI excerps in the first, which I urge you to read, be forwarded to
- the PNET.
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- Moreover, and after you're read the documentation:
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- ** The impetus behind Harel's [et al] decision to ban MIM from
- ** further posting on M.A.P. (misc.activism.progressive) is MIM's
- ** support for Shinning Path's alleged human rights abuses.
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- No longer just "alleged"
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- Number two, there is not "paternalistic" who dicides "what is "left""
- -- rather, as I worte in one of these gen.socialism posts/replies, "we
- are, yes, "biased" -- against *any* cheer-leading for
- systematic-murderous-repression"
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- ** Harel accuses Shinning Path of human rights abuses against women.
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- Number three, I didn't just "accuse of..abuses against women" in fact
- *explicitly* I contracted "some human rights abuses" in my "reply to
- MIM" (forwarde to pnet I hope) as "type (I)" with "systematic
- murderous campaign..." or, type (II).
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- As you see the AI documention not only back that up, but shows how
- much MIM can be trusted as they convenient reply to the Americas
- Watch post in a way that PRETENDS that "10 women in 7 years" is
- remotely, *remotely* representative of SL terror -- see the Amnesty
- excerpt for the actual figures for the order of magnitude of SL
- attrocities, and judge how much you trust MIM now.
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- ** "...Marxism leads us to Leninism and Leninism to Maoism. Of
- To which Marx replied...
- ** all these three, Maoism is principal. Moreover, Maoism leads us
- ** to Gonzalo Thought, which is the universal truth specific to the
- ** concrete reality of Peruvian society and specific to the concrete
- ** conditions of the class struggle today." [From a speech given by
- ** Guzman to the Central Committee of CPP]
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- To which Marx replied "I am not a Marxist"
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- The rest of the trash hardly merits rebuttal.
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- Harel
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