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- From: pmsc13sg@UMASSD.EDU (Stephen Grossman)
- Subject: Re: Wisdom Galore!
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- References: <1992Dec31.084202.19519@zooid.guild.org>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:09:48 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec31.084202.19519@zooid.guild.org>, GECKO <gecko@zooid.guild.org> writes:
- >Stephen Grossman <PMSC123G@UMASS.EDU> writes:
- >> If you know of a philosopher with more wisdom than Ayn Rand please
- >>enlighten me.
- >
- > Chuang Tzu comes to mind...
- >
- >
- > - GECKO
- >
- > "Once a man receives this fixed bodily form, he holds on to it,
- > waiting for the end. Sometimes clashing with things, sometimes
- > bending before them, he runs his course like a galloping steed,
- > and nothing can stop him. Is he not pathetic? Sweating and
- > laboring to the end of his days and never seeing his accomplish-
- > ments, utterly exhausting himself and never knowing where to look
- > for rest--can you help pitying him? I'm not dead yet! he says, but
- > what good is that? His body decays, his mind follows it--can you
- > deny that this is a great sorrow? Man's life has always been a
- > muddle like this. How could I be the only muddled one, and other
- > me not muddled?"
- > - Chuang Tzu (Watson's translation)
- >
- >
- >
- >gecko@zooid.guild.org
-
- You can read that hatred of life and mind/body split in Plato,
- Augustine, Kant, Schopenauer, etc. in Western philosophy also.
- This evil is justified (contextualized, limited) by the primacy of
- consciousness (named but not invented by Augustine) in which it is held that
- consciousness causes existence, that reality is created by our wishes, hopes,
- and fears. Of course, consciousness is only the consciousness of
- existence and then, within that, consciousness is possible (tho not
- necessary). The history of philosophy, with the exception of the Presocratics,
- Aristotle, Aquinas, and Rand and a few minor philosophers, is the history of
- the workings out of Socrates' (perhaps a mixture) and Plato's primacy of
- consciousness. Existence is not evil if your subjective, irrational values
- cannot be obtained. It is the value of placing anything above existence or
- reality that is evil.
- The game is up. Your Holy Wish is not a moral obligation for other
- people. They have a right to their own lives and happiness despite your
- self-imposed misery. I can walk past a begger or the starving in Somalia and be
- happy in my own life, knowing that other' misery is not a moral mortgage on my
- life.
- Chuang Tzu is a fool. He does not know the causes of things.
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- "In that world, you'll be able to rise in the morning with the spirit
- you had known in your childhood: that spirit of eagerness, adventure and cer-
- tainty which comes from dealing with a rational universe."
- AYN RAND
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- Stephen Grossman <PMSC13SG@UMASS.EDU>
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