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- From: siphon@momad.li.ny.us (Stimpson J. Katz)
- Newsgroups: talk.philosophy.misc
- Subject: RE: The Golden Rule
- Message-ID: <4HmDwB1w165w@momad.li.ny.us>
- Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 01:28:26 EST
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- Reply-To: siphon@Momad.LI.NY.US (Stimpson J. Katz)
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- andy.liddiard@almac.co.uk (Andy Liddiard) writes:
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- >
- > siphon@momad.li.ny.us (Stimpson J. Katz) writes:
- >
- > [...]
- >
- > SJK/*Part of the Objectivist ideology is that you should treat people as rati
- > SJK/*people should be treated. Not as you wish to treat them. You apparently
- > SJK/*some serious misunderstandings regarding Objectivism. (Do you confuse it
- > SJK/*with Hedonism?)
- >
- > [...]
- >
- > This makes the assumption that all people are rational. It could be
- > argued that, objectively, no-one is rational. I wouldn't make that
- > claim, but might make a third: that all people are partly rational,
- > partly irrational. How do I go about treating them?
- >
- > "Perhaps people are, as the ancients declared, rational animals; but
- > if this is so, it is so only in the sense that they are uniquely
- > capable of reason, contemplation, and thought, not that they spend
- > much of their lives at it."
- > Taylor, _Metaphysics_
- >
- > The ideology you state above, by induction, could state "you should
- > respect people for a particular ability that they all possess" (but
- > may not be actually using very often). If I meet a frothing lunatic
- > in the street wielding a chainsaw, I'm hardly going to treat him as
- > if he were rational. I shall be doing a runner, because he has lost
- > the ability to be rational. So yon bit of Objectivist ideology
- > fails to connect with reality (at least as I know it!).
- >
-
- Let me rephrase a little more precisely: Objectivism holds that
- you should treat people as they deserve to be treated, rationally.
- If they are irrational, treat them accordingly. If they are kind,
- treat them accordingly. But one should not treat a hero in the same
- manner as a criminal.
-
- In other words, my claim is that the RATIONAL way to treat people
- is based on what treatment they objectively deserve. This must be based
- on an evaluation of the individual.
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- Stimpson J. Katz
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