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- From: isaak@aurora.com (Mark Isaak)
- Subject: Re: TIME cover story
- Message-ID: <1993Jan3.005010.21127@aurora.com>
- Summary: TIME seems to enjoy obfuscating religious issues.
- Reply-To: isaak@aurora.com (Mark Isaak)
- Organization: The Aurora Group
- References: <1hlcnmINNkrb@agate.berkeley.edu>
- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 00:50:10 GMT
- Lines: 41
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- In article <1hlcnmINNkrb@agate.berkeley.edu> philjohn@garnet.berkeley.edu () writes:
- >Moreover, TIME said that "many, perhaps most, evolutionary
- >biologists" now believe that "the coming of highly intelligent
- >life was close to inevitable," because of a supposed inherent
- >tendency of evolution to favor "behavioral flexibility," which
- >demands "complex information processing - smarts."
-
- Did the article give a clue of where to find such biologists? I bet
- none of them know much entomology.
-
- >TIME adds that others "would say that such a law [order arising in chaos]
- >is EVIDENCE of God -- not a God who created human beings out of
- >dust, but a God with longer time horizons."
-
- And others would say that seeing certain shapes formed by mold on the
- side of a church is evidence of God. Go figure.
-
- I don't suppose the Time article ever got around to asking some of the
- more fundamental questions, such as what is a god? You need to answer
- that before the question of evidence even makes sense.
-
- >(1) Was this resolution [science and religion mutually exclusive]
- >merely a stick to beat the creationists with, or does it apply to the
- >National Academy's own members?
-
- That resolution recognized the fundamentally different approaches taken
- by science and religion. Science ultimately rests on objective verification;
- religion ultimately rests on subjective revelation. You can't get much
- more mutually exclusive than that.
-
- >(2) Should we "seek theological guidance from physicists (or
- >biologists)?" We seem to be getting a lot of it lately.
-
- Personally, I don't believe you should seek guidance from *anybody*
- unless that person (A) has something which you want, and (B) either has
- a long track record of successfully giving it to others, or is willing
- to share personal experiences of how he or she got it, or (preferably)
- both.
- --
- Mark Isaak "Every generation thinks it has the answers, and every
- isaak@aurora.com generation is humbled by nature." - Philip Lubin
-