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- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Subject: Re: Posting from other groups: Solar system stability
- Message-ID: <189@fedfil.UUCP>
- Date: 31 Dec 92 12:44:30 GMT
- References: <1992Dec30.194725.1076@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
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- In article <1992Dec30.194725.1076@rhrk.uni-kl.de>, kring@efes.physik.uni-kl.de (Thomas Kettenring) writes:
- ^>From: ref@CS.CMU.EDU (Robert Frederking)
- ^>Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space,sci.physics,sci.environment
- ^>Subject: Solar system stability (Was: averting doom)
- ^>Message-ID: <C031Kx.7CL.2@cs.cmu.edu>
- ^>Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 18:22:09 MET
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- ^>Reply-To: ref@cs.cmu.edu (Robert Frederking)
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- ^>In-Reply-To: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU's message of 29 Dec 92 21:10:51
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- ^>The latest issue of S&T mentions some recent work done using chaos
- ^>theory and large computers to see whether the solar system is stable.
- ^>Their finding (I forget who it was now) was that millimeter
- ^>perturbations in the orbits of the planets do cause chaotic changes in
- ^>the long run. The good news (for people who don't like chaotic
- ^>orbits) is that the amount of time it takes for something ``really
- ^>bad'' to become probable is on the order of a trillion years [i.e.,
- ^>longer than the solar system will exist in its present form anyway].
- ^>``Really bad'' is for a planet to be ejected, a collission, etc.
- ^
- ^Of course, this is uniformitarianistical bullshit; Velikovsky knew better,
- ^without needing computers or any knowledge of the subject...
- ^(S&T is Sky and Telescope, I guess)
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- ^thomas kettenring, 3 dan, kaiserslautern, germany
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- Robert Bass DOES know better. You are assuming a stable system to begin with;
- The scenario which Velikovsky, Talbott, Cardona, and others propose begins
- with an unstable system. Bass demonstrated that an unstable system such as
- Velikovsky proposed having existed 4000 years ago and back, could very easily
- devolve into our present system in a few centuries, and leave no trace, i.e.
- it would appear to anybody wishing to so believe that the system had been
- as we see it now for "billyuns and billyuns of years...".
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- --
- Ted Holden
- HTE
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