home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Newsgroups: talk.origins
- Path: sparky!uunet!mcsun!sunic!ugle.unit.no!alf.uib.no!hsr.no!onar
- From: onar@hsr.no (Onar Aam)
- Subject: Re: On God and Science
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.100045.16484@hsr.no>
- Sender: news@hsr.no
- Organization: Rogaland University Centre
- References: <1992Dec20.003729.10684@aurora.com> <20DEC199214091069@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> <1992Dec20.223129.25238@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> <1992Dec22.122611.21699@city.cs>
- Distribution: world,local
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 10:00:45 GMT
- Lines: 37
-
- >esot@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Eric Sotnak) writes:
- >>Mr. Tun has made the mistake of claiming that since the
- >>(antecedent) probability of life existing (or having come into existence) is
- >>so low, supernatural agency must be involved. Another mistake in judgment.
- >
- >I would not have said low, but rather zero - ie impossible. The
- >mistake is in assuming that if there are enough `tries' then
- >something that is impossible becomes possible.
- >
- >--
- > ________ Lionel Tun, lionel@cs.city.ac.uk ________
- > / /_ __/\ Computer Vision Group /\ \__ _\
- >/___/_/_/\/ City University, London EC1V 0HB \ \___\_\_\
- >\___\_\_\/ 071-477 8000 ext 3889 \/___/_/_/
-
- Lionel, could you please put forward a coherent and detailed explanation of why
- on earth the probability is zero? Besides, the probability of what? Abiogenesis?
- Of evolution? Of both?
- Could you also give us an idea of how much time you have spent trying to
- understand principles of biology, or even of science? If your reading on biology
- limits to mere creationist critics, isn't that to build your bold statements on
- faith only? Do you honestly believe that your faith is going to convince anyone
- on Talk.Origins? Remember that most of the people here are men (and women) of
- reason. Faith won't do. Do you feel that you understand biology much, much better
- than people here on TO? Do you trust science at all? Do you think that theory
- should be reflected through technology? For instance, is it possible to make a
- car based on physical theories which are wrong? Or even better, is it
- possible to make even smaller Integrated Circuits (ICs) than today if quantum
- mechanics turn out to be bogus? And finally, is it possible to have sciences
- (genetics, information theory) which correlates with an evolutionary history
- (which you claim is wrong) AND which at the same time have an imposing practical
- application?
-
-
- Onar.
-
-
-