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- Subject: Re: An End to the Sanctity of Human Life Argument
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- Date: 3 Jan 93 17:41:42 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec31.182305.9901@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>, sfm@manduca.neurobio.arizona.edu (Stephen Matheson) writes:
- > From article <1992Dec31.120002.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>,
- > by cdpert01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu:
- >> In article <1992Dec31.042143.2459@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>,
- >> clavazzi@nyx.cs.du.edu (The_Doge) writes:
- >
- >>> Now please explain why it's morally acceptable for actual, undoubted
- >>> human persons to die in the interest of reducing the crime rate, but morally
- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- >>> unacceptable for zygotes or fetii to die in the interest of reducing the
- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- >>> rates of mental and physical distress and/or illness among women.
- >
- >> "Human persons" should be replaced by "convicted murderers" in your
- >> appeal -- to make it more specific to the thread. Second, your use
- >> of "zygotes or fetii" tends to dehumanize the unborn children you're
- >> considering (definition of child is an unborn or recently born person).
- >
- > I hope you're prepared to back this "definition" up, preferably with a
- > quotation from a reputable dictionary.
-
- Is Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary (1991) reputable
- enough? The primary definition (i.e. definition 1 a) of "child" is
- "an unborn or recently born person."
-
- > [deletia]
- >
- >> The pro-life/pro-capital punishment position is also
- >> logically consistent. It assumes that there is a right-to-life, but, along
- >> with this right, there is a responsibility not to murder (i.e. to unlawfully
- >> cease another's right-to-life). If one acts irresponsibly, then he is
- >> no longer necessarily entitled to his right.
- >
- > I'm no legal expert, so I must query: Is that really the philosophy behind
- > capital punishment? It seems to be your philosophy, but is it a prevalent
- > legal doctrine?
-
- I presented this in response to the claim that the Roman Catholic
- position is the only logically-consistent position. I am not an ardent
- supporter of capital punishment -- primarily because of the possibility
- of execution of an innocent person. However, in theory, I believe that
- a murderer should be executed.
-
- > I ask because I note that the Declaration of Independence
- > asserts the existence of "inalienable rights" and, according to the (oh no!)
- > dictionary, "inalienable" means "that may not be taken away or transferred".
-
- Incarceration takes away one's "inalienable" right to liberty. Are
- you suggesting that, in the name of inalienable rights, we should empty
- all of the penitentiaries?
-
- C. Perttunen
-