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- From: mon@cray.com (Muriel Nelson)
- Subject: Re: Spoken Like a True ProLifer
- Message-ID: <1993Jan2.174743.27170@hemlock.cray.com>
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- References: <C031zB.6nE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <30DEC92.18072448@vax.clarku.edu> <C04w4u.CBs@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
- Date: 2 Jan 93 17:47:43 CST
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- In article <C04w4u.CBs@news.cso.uiuc.edu> vengeanc@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu () writes:
-
- [massive, merciful deletia]
- >Don't put words into my mouth. Having sex and getting pregnant are not crimes.
- >They are, however, actions that an adult must deal with like an adult.
- >
- And what if the individual involved is _not_ an adult?
- >
- >You are wrong. You are so completely wrong I know you have NO understanding
- >of this subject. Women's lives are EQUAL to preborn babies. Only when the
- >mother will definitely die from the birth should the baby be killed. This
- >should be treated as a great tragedy, which it is. The baby deserves a funeral,
- >not a garbage can.
-
- I think a woman's life is worth more than that of a
- conceptus. 2/3 of all zygotes will never make it to term
- because of natural factors. What is it about the wishes
- of a woman that makes them inferior to the whims of nature?
- Do you think only women have equal worth with embryoes, or
- do you ascribe this valuation to men as well? Would you
- demand 100% certainty of maternal death before the woman's
- life would be considered? No other complications short of
- death would qualify? No permanent physical damage would
- move you to compassion for the woman?
-
- You seem to think that a woman incurs the responsibility
- to suffer _any_ amount of physical damage, up to, and possibly
- including _death_ (since we'd sacrifice all the women whose
- deaths could not be predicted with certainty) as a result
- of consensual sex. What equivalent _physical_ responsibility
- do you propose for a man who has sex? If you say he has to
- support the kid, how does that differ from the mother's duty
- to support the kid?
-
- muriel
- standard disclaimer
-
-