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- From: parker@ehsn17.cen.uiuc.edu (Robert S. Parker)
- Subject: Re: Spoken Like a True ProLifer
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- Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
- Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 23:10:41 GMT
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- vengeanc@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu () writes:
-
- >hsims@vax.clarku.edu writes:
-
- [WHO THE HELL ADDED ALL THOSE GROUPS TO THE DISTRIBUTION?]
- I am removing: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh.tv-show
-
- >>Really, those poor, homeless, and hungry children should just take
- >>responsibility for their lives and find a job. Funding programs such as
- >>WIC will just encourage infants and children to be lazy bums.
-
- >Those poor, homeless and hungry children should have had parents responsible
- >enough to realize they couldn't afford to feed children. If they could
- >have controlled their hormones there wouldn't be a problem. You tell me which
- >is the worse crime, society refusing to pay deadbeats or deadbeats knowingly
- >bringing children into the world whom they cannot feed. Would any decent
- >person bring children into this world to watch them starve? I think not.
-
- So...all pro-lifers are not decent? Hmmm, that's a possibility... ;)
-
- >And yes, wasteful social programs WILL encourage children to be bums because
- >they learn by the example of their parents.
-
- >Only an idiot would hold children responsible for the stupidity and
- >cruelty of their parents. If programs that help these children could be
- >enacted that would truly be uncorruptable and beneficial to them, they would
- >be warranted.
-
- Scenario: unwanted child born into abusive family. The parents would have
- gotten an abortion, but it was "illegal", so they couldn't.
-
- The child now has to suffer because of the cruelty and irresponsibility of
- his or her parents. Does this sound like a *good* thing?
-
- >Abortion is murder. It's not a question of just the mother's life, but also
- >the baby's. The laws of this country already state that murder is wrong so
- >in fact the state already has control over this issue. The only problem is
- >in making people aware of what abortion really is... cold blooded, vicious,
- >violent, painful MURDER.
-
- Do you know what they do to kittens and puppies (even adult cats and dogs)
- when they have too many of them and can't care for them any more? They "put
- them to sleep". It used to be that they would put them in a bag and drown
- them in a river, but these days the more "humane" technique of lethal injection
- is used.
-
- An unborn child is alive. So is a kitten. An unborn child can fell pain.
- So can a kitten. An unborn child moves around. So does a kitten. Many people
- find unborn children to be "cute" (they compare them to babies which are
- supposedly "cute"). Many people find kittens to be "cute".
-
- A kitten would requre support for up to 18 years. A child would require even
- more support for the same time. We don't always have the resources to provide
- for all the kittens that could exist. We don't always have the resources to
- provide for all the children that could be born.
-
- No one wants to kill kittens, but sometimes it is necessary because people are
- more important. No one wants to kill unborn children, but sometimes it is
- necessary because people are more important.
-
- And why is this ok? A kitten is not a person . . . and neither is an unborn
- child.
-
- >This isn't the forum to discuss abortion. If you would like to argue it go
- >to talk.abortion.
-
- Who added those other groups? Would someone please tell me what the groups
- alt.fan.rush-limbaugh and alt.fan.rush-limbaugh.tv-show have to do with what
- has been discussed here?
-
- >> .... Heather.
-
- >Same as above --^ [ Edward Simmonds ]
-
- -Rob
-