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- From: mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran)
- Subject: Re: independent party? (was: Abortion, Caves, Galen)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan1.173353.19410@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
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- Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 17:33:53 GMT
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- In article <aidler.725888809@sanjuan> aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler) writes:
- >cj@eno.esd.sgi.com.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio) writes:
- >
- >>In article <aidler.725614614@sanjuan>, aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA writes:
- >>|An independent party needs to consider the opinion of
- >>|experts along with the interests of mother and child and
- >>|evaluate how realistic the woman's desire for an
- >>|abortion is compared with any reasonable alternatives.
- >
- >>Why? Why is it the business of any "independent party"? Why
- >>not allow the woman or the couple (if it exists) to make
- >>decisions about her body? Have you heard of the concept of a
- >>"right to privacy"?
- >
- >I am extending human rights to the fetus.
- >To extinquish those rights without an
- >independent evaluation is not just.
- >
- And you do so totally without providing any jusitifcation for your
- claim that a fetus deserves any human rights.
-
- >>Would you like this "independent party" to make other decisions
- >>concerning this woman's body as well? Say, which birth control
- >>method she should be using, which kinds of treatments she get
- >>for various illnesses, etc.?
- >
- >How people manage their private lives is none
- >of my concern.
- >
- You are absolutely right. So why do you insist on butting into the
- private decisions regarding reproduction?
-
- >>Note that no child is involved in abortion. The woman's
- >>interests are the only interests to consider. If you feel
- >>otherwise, you have to prove your case.
- >
- >Parents have children.
- >A pregnant woman is already a parent
- >(whether you or she chooses to acknowledge it or not).
- >
- Here we go... More of that TbBA you are so good at.
-
- --
- Mark Cochran merlin@eddie.ee.vt.edu
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