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- From: mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran)
- Subject: Re: Abortion, Caves, Galen (WAS Vegetarianism and abortion)
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- Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 04:01:33 GMT
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- In article <C05BC3.6GE@ra.nrl.navy.mil> psl@nrl.navy.mil (Paul Lebow) writes:
- >In article <30DEC92.16371945@vax.clarku.edu> hsims@vax.clarku.edu writes:
- >> In a previous article, psl@nrl.navy.mil (Paul Lebow) wrote:
- >> >In article <1992Dec29.175100.20873@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
- >> >decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz) writes:
- >> >
- >> >Yes Dean I can support my assertion,
- >
- >1989 Ed. STATISTICAL ABSTR OF THE U.S. - Bureau of Census:
- > by 1972 180 women died from abortions in the US.
- > in 1972 there were 38,000 illegal abortions
- >
- Should read 180 women died from those illegal abortions reported after
- the fact. Most estimates suggest it is more likely you need to add a
- zero to the end of your figures there Paul.
-
- >1978 American Journal of Obstetrics & Gyn.
- > study claims that the legalization of abortion "has had no major impact
- > on the number of women dying from abortion"
- >
- Certainly a valuable citation, considering it's age...
- We shall see how valuable it is after comparing numbers of deaths from
- your next citation.
-
- >"A Speaker's and Debater's Notebook" NARAL 1978
- > claims that before 1973 the maternal death rate from illegal abortions was
- > 40 deaths per 100,000 with 200,000 illegal abortions per year.
- >
- As you post, it is a claim, and one made by a group with an axe to
- grind. But let us assume that your propoganda is actually accurate. It
- states there were 40 deaths per 100,000 aboritons performed. Current
- figures indicate a mortality rate of 0.004%, or 4 deaths per 100,000
- abortions performed (source provided the last time I responded to you,
- go look it up Monkey boy).
- So, according to your own statistics, there were *ten times* as many
- deaths per 100,000 abortions as currently.
- So what does this do to your claim that more women die from legal
- abortions then from illegal ones Paul?
- I'd say it shoots it straight into the trashcan.
- Go dig up something else Monkey boy.
-
- >Spin away folks!
- >
- Looks to me like your head is spinning quite well on its own Monkey
- boy.
-
- >For crying out loud, Heather, I can't believe that you would use stats
- >on a government run by that butcher dictator, Ceaucescu to support your
- >claims. Talk of mitigating factors - am I to ignore forced pregnancy and genocidal programs he instituted?
- >
- Why not? Forced pregnancy is exactly what you are advocating in *this*
- country. You might as well feel free to ignore the results of them in
- others.
- Try again Monkey boy.
-
- --
- Mark Cochran merlin@eddie.ee.vt.edu
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