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- From: mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran)
- Subject: Re: Larry Margolis shows his expertise at innuendo, again
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- References: <nyikos.725147807@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <1992Dec28.063751.2980@watson.ibm.com> <nyikos.725748406@milo.math.scarolina.edu>
- Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 03:43:48 GMT
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- In article <nyikos.725748406@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
- >In <1992Dec28.063751.2980@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes:
- >
- >>In <nyikos.725147807@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
- >>>
- >>>In the meantime, I hope you can help me correct an entry in
- >>>Dr. Willke's _Abortion: Questions and Answers_. Here it is, as
- >>>it appears on p. 108 of the Fourth edition.
- >>>
- >>> Women who had one induced abortion had a 17.5% miscarriage
- >>> rate in subsequent pregnancies, as compared to a 7.5%
- >>> rate in a non-aborted group.
- >>> Richarson & Dickson, "Effects of Legal Termination
- >>> on Subsequent Pregnancy," _British Med. Jour., vol. 1,
- >>> 1976, pp. 1303-04.
- >
- >>Perhaps I can help. How about adding the following note:
- >> Of course, it should be noted that is from a British journal from
- >> 16 years ago, and describes a problem with techniques that are probably
- >> no longer used in the US. There is *no* evidence of problems with
- >> later childbearing among women who have an early abortion performed by
- >> the most common method used *today* - vacuum aspiration.
- >
- >Vacuum aspiration predates 1976. As for the *no* evidence part, is there
- >*any* evidence that it IS different today?
- >
- Yes, there is. Plenty.
-
- >Can you give me a reference? Please don't pull a Mark Cochran on me
- >("Any good medical journal."), nor a Nadja Adolf (go to the library and
- >dig it up yourself).
- >
- Oh stop whining. You've been given references, you just ignore them.
-
- >After all, you are the one who, by innuendo, have created the impression
- >that things are DIFFERENT today.
- >
- I'll give you several PHoney...
-
- _Maternal-Newborn Nursing_ 4th Edition,
- Sally Olds, RNC, MS
- Marcia London RNC, MSN, NNP
- Patricia Ladewig RNC, NP, PhD
-
- _Total Patient Care_ 8th Edition
- Gail Harkness Hood, RN, DrPH, FAAN
- Judith R. Dincher, RN, BSN, MSEd
-
- _Maternity Nursing_ 14th Edition
- Sharon Reeder, RN, PhD
- Luigi Mastroianni, MD, FACS, FACOG
- Leonide Martin, RN, MS, MPH
-
- _Medical-Surgical Nursing_
- Joan Luckmann, RN, BS, MA
- Karen Creason Sorenson, RN, BSN, MN
-
- All of these contain statistics that show quite plainly that the
- problem you claimed above does not exist in this day and age.
- Please note that, unlke you, I'm also not going to try and claim to
- know the authors stance on this issue. I've always found it amazing
- (and detrimental to your credibility) that you claim to know the
- stances of the people you quote (i.e. the fired employee of Dr. Tiller
- that you claim is pro-chioce, as well as various authors you claim are
- both feminists and pro-choice).
-
- --
- Mark Cochran merlin@eddie.ee.vt.edu
- These are the views of my employer. They also represent the views of
- your employer, your government, the Church of your choice, and the
- Ghost of Elvis. So there.
-