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- From: sfm@manduca.neurobio.arizona.edu (Stephen Matheson)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Nyikos and the one bad apple theory of forced pregnancy.
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.000140.4189@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
- Date: 31 Dec 92 00:01:40 GMT
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- From article <C03G0J.H94@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, by psl@nrl.navy.mil (Paul Lebow):
- > In article <1992Dec28.065056.50307@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.ibm.com
- > (Larry Margolis) writes:
- >> In <nyikos.725150678@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu
- > (Peter Nyikos) writes:
-
- >> >Meanwhile, 1,600,000 unborn children, most of them already in the
- >> >fetus stage, are aborted each year in the USA alone.
-
- >> This would be interesting to see you document this, since the dictionary
- >> says:
- >> fetus (n)
- >> DEFINITIONS:
- >> an unborn or unhatched vertebrate esp.
- >> after attaining the basic structural plan
- >> of its kind; specif : a developing human
- >> from usu. three months after conception
- >> to birth
- >> (c) G. & C. Merriam
-
- Gosh, I hate to complicate matters, but I must take issue with this
- definition. According to my human embryology text, the fetal period begins
- in the 9th week of gestation when, as the dictionary correctly reports, the
- criterion for fetushood has been met: attainment of the basic structural
- plan of a human. I think you'll find that this is embryology's definition
- of fetus, and that the dictionary writers were influenced by the popular
- trimester system which is numerically convenient but is not based on
- developmental events.
-
- >> and the statistics I have show that more than 90% of all abortions in
- >> the USA are performed in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.
-
- It would be interesting to see how many abortions are performed before and
- after 9 weeks.
-
- >> I know you like neither dictionaries nor statistics; I'm taking bets on
- >> which you'll attack first. (The odds-on favorite is that you'll run away
- >> again.)
-
- This appears to be a rare case in which an attack on the dictionary is
- warranted. I wonder how many other dictionaries contain this error.
-
- > Larry.....Oh Laaaaarrryyy. This is the ghost of old Dan Webster hauting
- > you. Have you looked up the definition of "child" lately, Larry? You and
- > Peter can run down that path, together.
-
- Aw, gee, Paul, can't you just tell us now?
-
- --
-
- Steve Matheson Program in Neuroscience University of Arizona
- sfm@neurobio.arizona.edu
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