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- From: noonan@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Michael P Noonan)
- Subject: Re: Slavery Analogy
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.181800.5855@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:18:00 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec30.170931.5650@wdl.loral.com>, bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com (J H Woodyatt) writes:
- |> skinner@sp94.csrd.uiuc.edu (Gregg Skinner) writes:
- |> # Analogies are not equalities. An apple is analogous to an orange in
- |> # that both are round. If we are considering what will happen to each
- |> # when they are placed on an inclined plane, the analogy is proper. If
- |> # we are considering taste, then the analogy certainly fails. It is
- |> # important to note that pointing out that apples and oranges differ in
- |> # color does not preclude reaching conclusions based on their analogous
- |> # shapes.
- |>
- |> Oh, forgive me -- *I* thought you were trying to make a point with
- |> your analogy. Now that it's clear that you are simply playing a game
- |> of concentration, making analogies just for the sheer joy of it, I
- |> suppose that clears a few things up.
- |>
- |> Several posters, myself included, have explained why we think the
- |> analogy isn't useful for aiding in the development of public policy.
- |> Was there some other reason you trotted out this analogy? Is it a
- |> simple argument for moral persuasion? Are you trying to practice the
- |> art of dialectic? Are you trying to bait flames like this one? What?
- |>
- |> If all you want is for someone here to give you a gold star for
- |> thinking for yourself, I suppose there isn't much room for argument,
- |> is there? You drew an analogy. What are we supposed to do with it?
-
- Your supposed to realize that the analogy shows that there is precedent
- in U.S. law for protection of the weak and underrepresented. *If* the
- fetus is a person, then it would not be unprecedented for the states to
- pass a law protecting it or for a constitutional amendment to be passed
- protecting it. If personhood is in doubt, it is still not
- unprecedented as many states prohibited slaves while the slaves'
- personhood was still in doubt. Whether or not it was correct for the
- states to abolish slavery while the slaves' personhood was still in
- doubt was premature or wrong, it was done and sets legal precedent.
-
- However, I can see from your attitude that you have no desire for
- constructive debate concerning this issue. You may now continue to
- flame at the mouth.
-
- |> --
- |> +---------------------------+ ``Man has not a single right which is
- |> | J H Woodyatt | the product of anything but might.''
- |> | bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com | -- Mark Twain
- |> +---------------------------+
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- Mike Noonan
-