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- From: gds@york.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
- Subject: Re: Parallel situations
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.095751.1789@cs.ucla.edu>
- Originator: gds@york.cs.ucla.edu
- Sender: usenet@cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet)
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- Reply-To: gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
- Organization: in your face!
- References: <1992Dec28.182701.28515@watson.ibm.com> <1992Dec30.011753.7937@cs.ucla.edu> <1992Dec30.050758.1772@watson.ibm.com>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 09:57:51 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec30.050758.1772@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
- >Again, there's a difference between a right and a reason for exercising that
- >right. Her *right* is to control how her body is used.
-
- I am not disputing that right. I am pointing out that men do not have
- any rights in this situation, despite having a reason for exercising
- those rights, namely, that they are financially unable to support a
- child if it's born.
-
- If you say, "well, he should have kept his pants zipped", I could make
- the same argument that a woman in that situation, knowing full well
- that she could not financially support a child, should not have had
- sex either.
-
- If the woman decides to carry the fetus to term, I believe she should
- be able to get financial support from the father. However, I believe
- he also should have some child support rights, which he does not have,
- either. (I realize that some men do not want to have anything to do
- with the child, which I think is wrong, but I believe it's equally as
- wrong for women to deny child support rights to fathers willing and
- able to provide it.)
-
- >It has been said many times previously in this newsgroup (t.a) that the
- >woman has the right of removal, not the right of destruction. That the
- >fetus is not capable of surviving on its own at the time of practically
- >all abortions is just too bad for the fetus.
-
- If fetuses could be safely removed, do you agree that the mother and
- father have equal responsibilities to support the fetus/child? I
- wonder if the women who currently abort because they are unable (or
- unwilling) to financially support children would agree with you.
-
- >(I'm directing followups to talk.abortion only.)
-
- Followups not reset.
-