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- From: steven@advtech.uswest.com ( Steve Novak)
- Subject: A Shot Across Lebow (WAS Re: SJM slur alert)
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- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:20:04 GMT
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- Joining the Sleazebag Parade, Lebow proves he can twist and quote out of
- context with the best of Liar Doug or the clueless Math Whiz.
-
- > = (Paul Lebow) writes:
- >> = S Mezias writes:
-
- >Slur alert! Examples of pro-abort rhetoric neatly woven in as mere
- >incidental remarks:
-
- Extremist forced-birther attack! Whooooooaaaa Nellie!!
-
- >> If we just keep government out of women's uteri....
-
- >Here SJM raises the unfounded Orwellian fear of invasive government
- >control.
-
- Unfounded? Exactly how do you term a woman forced to give birth by her
- government? Oops! Paul looks stupid already! That wasn't hard.
-
- >Neat trick - Totally distracts one from the truth - it is the
- >child in the uterus not the mean old government.
-
- Except that it's a *fetus*, you're right. With abortion legal, there is
- no "mean old government". If abortion were ever made illegal (fat
- chance), then indeed the government is interfering with the woman's
- reproductive decisions.
-
- Too bad you're stuck with that pathetic pretense of not understanding
- simple English. Let's you pretend you're being wickedly funny though,
- huh Paul?
-
- >> ...not given the legal right to use their parents' bodies without
- >> permission.
-
- >Here SJM raises the bogus concept that the government never dictates how
- >we use our bodies.
-
- That's not what he said, asshole. Quit lying.
-
- The government never enslaves women and forces them to give birth.
- You're certainly sounding thick here, Lebow.
-
- >> I really like your analogies for the fetus FANATICS. They do often
- >> seem like CRAZED snipers to me, ...
-
- >(caps are mine - PL)
-
- Why are you changing his statement?
-
- >Here SJM uses the ubiquitous "bogey man" innuendo. To be pro-life one
- >must obviously be a crazed fanatic.
-
- It seems to be a general requirement, yes. Some of the best laughs I've
- had is "escorting" at an abortion clinic, and watching these
- bible-screeching, hating lunatics with bad teeth spitting tobacco...
-
- ...and the men were even worse! <dit dit, *CRASH*>
-
- >I hope you don't have any pro-life friends or relatives lurking in you
- >closet!
-
- Several relatives, only a few friends. But they're the true
- compassionate christian types, so we get to discuss abortion peacefully
- and get along fine.
-
- Of course here on t.a., we get all the frustrated no-lives and weenie
- college students who get real brave behind their terminals. They spout
- hatred all day, along with their lack of compassion for women.
-
- It's the Phyllis Schlafly Brigade - like you, Paul - who augment their
- anti-abortionism with lies and narrow-mindedness, that I look out for.
-
- >>...the fact is that they are quite intentionally TAKING AIM AT WOMEN.
- >>...
- >> SJM
-
- Hey Paul, how about not pulling a Holtsinger, and letting readers see
- the statement IN CONTEXT? Another way to spot a dishonest pro-lifer.
- You've done it *twice* now.
-
- >Totally unsupported - but sounds great to the unsuspecting politically
- >correct.
-
- Gads. Doing the Limbaugh Rock again, Paul?
-
- Anyone that states matter-of-factly that women should be forced to give
- birth has a problem with women, or they mistakenly worship a fetus as
- more important then the woman carrying it. Hardly unsupported.
-
- >I guess the millions of men let off the hook through the magic
- >of the abortionist's wand is just incidental gravy.
-
- Hmm. Maybe you could clarify whatever the hell this has to do with
- Mezias' statement. Sounds like you're just trying to get your whining
- in for the day.
-
- >Of course, men are just disinterested bystanders who have no stake
- >whatsoever in keeping abortion legal.
-
- EARTH TO PAUL! What the fuck does this have to do with anything?
-
- >And of course the concept of mothers killing their
- >offspring is a good light to hold women to.
-
- I thought we were talking about abortion.
-
- If I was an anti-abortionist, I'd be embarrassed by this Paul guy. His
- patronizing, smirky innuendo and lies wouldn't sway the pope away from
- pro-choice.
-
-
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