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- From: nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Peter shows his ignorance, once again.
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.230020.24638@jetsun.weitek.COM>
- Date: 28 Dec 92 23:00:20 GMT
- References: <nyikos.724963465@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <1992Dec22.010745.13877@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <nyikos.725147807@milo.math.scarolina.edu>
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- In article <nyikos.725147807@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
- >In <1992Dec22.010745.13877@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes:
- >
- >>In article <nyikos.724963465@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
- >I could tell you a really juicy example due to Nadja Adolf
- >but when I asked her if I had her permission to post it to talk.abortion
- >she replied that I do not. I, on the other hand, hereby give her
- >permission to post it, or email it to a certain Mark Cochran
- >so that he may see what it takes to be a true member of the inner
- >circle.
-
- Peter, you wimp -
- would you like to explain to the nice people that you attacked my character
- on a private forum on a totally different subject with 'Big Lie' type
- references to what I had posted here?
-
- >
- >Mark, your unhelpful response is not bad for a beginner, but you
- >have a long way to go before you have scaled the heights which
- >Ms. Adolf has mastered. On the other hand, she could learn a lot
- >from your mastery of the Big Lie technique, so well displayed in
- >Cycle 3.
-
- Of course, you have to remember that to be part of the anti-choice inner
- circle, you have to bring up talk.abortion on every forum you are a part
- of, and to always remember to attack others' character there. A lobotomy
- helps, too.
-
- Remember, fear or smear is absolutely permissible for the anti-choice side.
-
- > Could you at least tell
- >me what entry to look for in the index? "Miscarriages, rate
- >of"? "Spontaneous abortion, rate of?" "Ova, fertilized, failure
- >to implant, rate of?" "Zygotes, failure to implant, rate of"
- >"Blastocysts, failure to implant, rate of?"
-
- Sounds like a good place to start. But WHY do you expect us to do your
- bibliographic research?
-
- > Women who had one induced abortion had a 17.5% miscarriage
- > rate in subsequent pregnancies, as compared to a 7.5%
- > rate in a non-aborted group.
- > Richarson & Dickson, "Effects of Legal Termination
- > on Subsequent Pregnancy," _British Med. Jour., vol. 1,
- > 1976, pp. 1303-04.
-
- Evaluating illegal abortions versus a non-aborted group doesn't work.
- For real fun, check out the data on women who've had one pregnancy versus
- women who've had one abortion.
-
- >Ah, but you pre-emptively told me to read any text on obstetrics, so
- >you are under no obligation to provide anyone in talk.abortion with
- >any of this information. (Actually, you get this privilege just by
- >being pro-choice. When we pro-lifers are challenged, we have to come
- >up with statistics.)
-
- OK. Try William's Obstetrics. I suggested it last time, too. But you're
- into finessing and the big lie today, aren't you?
-