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- From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
- Subject: Re: A Bare-Fased misrepresentation in same sentence by DODIE: Points?
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- References: <34614@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU> <1992Dec24.033906.16829@ncsu.edu> <34625@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU> <1154@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
- Date: 28 Dec 92 21:15:10 GMT
- Lines: 82
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- In <1154@blue.cis.pitt.edu> sgast+@pitt.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
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- >I say, 10 points for Mr. Mezias.
-
-
- >In article <34625@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU> smezias@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias) writes:
- >#In article <1992Dec24.033906.16829@ncsu.edu>
- >#dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes the perfect
- >#sentence to capture the full essence of why he is regarded as a prime
- >#net liar.
-
- If this is true, if this is the best piece of evidence Mezias and
- Garvin can come up with after all the ranting and raving they do almost
- without end about his dishonesty, then I do not see any need to look
- at further evidence, until they assign 20 or more points to something.
- (11 points gives too small a difference.)
-
- ># I have difficulty understanding such behavior because it is
- >#so clearly revealing of an ends-justifies-the-means mentality as to be
- >#uncomfortably manipulative to read:
- >#
- >##I have stated numerous times I am undecided on the issue of
- >##legislation, but that I do oppose Roe v. Wade and the FOCA.
-
- "undecided," in the Mezias-Garvin dictionary, apparently means "not
- fully decided about EVERYTHING". Still, I am amazed that they do
- not see that there may be people in this newsgroup who view the
- word "undecided" in a slightly different way from them.
-
- If they do recognize that their RESTRICTING "undecided" to this
- definition is highly nonstandard, why don't they e-mail messages
- like this one to each other, and leave the rest of us alone?
-
- >#In the context of talk.abortion, it is incomprehensible to me that one
- >#could claim to be undecided on legislative issues and opposed to FOCA.
- >#Your mention of your opposition of RvW suggests that you would
- >#probably make the broader claim that you are undecided about state
- >#intervention to compel pregnancy while being opposed to RvW.
- >#
- >##My arguments against abortion often revolve around moral
- >##issues, and they should not be confused with arguments in
- >##favor of legal restrictions.
- >#
- >#Last time I checked deliberate misrepresentation and lying were
- >#generally considered immoral. Is that a clue about how to
- >#characterize your side of the issue?
-
- >Now, let's watch DODie ignore Mezias' post.
-
- Why, what is there to refute in it? The only reason I am following
- up to it is that I am slowly accumulating evidence that Susan Garvin's
- word is not to be trusted.
-
- (Actually, I've been accumulating evidence at an astonishing rate, but
- to a pro-choicer it must seem like a slow accumulation of evidence and
- I may actually need help from others if I am not to spend all week
- documenting a case that one of the pro-choicers listed below will
- deign to take *at all* seriously.)
-
- Peter Nyikos (not one of the pro-choicers listed below)
-
- From an earlier post:
-
-
- Mark Cochran Keith Cochran Patrick Humphrey Dean Kaflowitz
- Steve Novak Steven Mezias J H Woodyatt Jim Keegan Brian Kauffman
- Dan King Mark Ira Kauffman drieux Larry Margolis Chris Lyman
- Ron Bense Lefty Gordon Storga ...
-
- not to mention:
-
- Adrienne Regard Sarah McCabe Muriel Nelson Kathi Mills Heather
- rocker Teddi Linda Birmingham
-
- Have I left anyone out? More importantly, have I maligned anyone
- unjustly? My apologies to anyone who does not belong on one of the
- two lists above.
-
- I was tempted to include Steve Adams, but I need to see how he
- responded to my "You figure it out" post.
-
-