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- From: sfm@manduca.neurobio.arizona.edu (Stephen Matheson)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Meet Petey Ny, propoganda specialist.
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.151019.18571@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
- Date: 24 Dec 92 15:10:19 GMT
- References: <nyikos.725152336@milo.math.scarolina.edu>
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- From article <nyikos.725152336@milo.math.scarolina.edu>,
- by nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos):
-
- > In <1992Dec22.012821.14804@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
- > mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes:
-
- >>In article <nyikos.724627328@milo.math.scarolina.edu>
- >>nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
-
- [Deletia]
-
- >>>I put "sic" after "oxytocin" because I am under the impression that this
- >>>is the name for the natural hormone, whereas the hormone administered
- >>>intravenously is known as "pitocin." BTW, digoxin is a compound related
- >>>to digitalis with similar action on the heart, and is not to be confused
- >>>with the even more lethal chemical dioxin.
-
- >>Incorrect, as usual, Petey. Pitocin is a brand name for a hormone of
- >>either synthetic or natural origin called oxytocin.
-
- > OK, I'll take your word for this one. Note, I did say "under the
- > impression". Susan Garvin could teach you a thing or two about
- > selective deletions. You are making things way too easy for me
- > by leaving the relevant text up there.
-
- >>Digoxin is not "related to" digitalis, it *is* digitalis.
-
- This isn't sci.bio or sci.med or sci.pharmacol, but it seems the
- issue here is credibility, so allow me to inject some facts. Feel
- free to ignore them if they don't contribute to your agenda.
-
- The Merck Index (8th edition) lists 8 main constituents of digitalis,
- which is ground-up foxglove (sp. *Digitalis*) leaves. The most active
- ingredient in digitalis (in terms of cardiac stimulation) is either
- digitoxin or digoxin, depending on which *Digitalis* species provided
- the leaves. Since the term "digitalis" is (I think) an all-encompassing
- term (almost a lay term) for the various treatments, which nowadays
- are probably purified digitoxin or digoxin, Nyikos' description of
- digoxin as a "form of digitalis" seems to me to be essentially correct.
- Cochran's statement that digoxin *is* digitalis is, IMHO, less correct;
- digitoxin, too, is digitalis. While perhaps "digoxin is *in* digitalis"
- would be most accurate, the identification of it as a "form of digitalis"
- seems most useful given the somewhat generic use of the term digitalis.
-
- What are my credentials? I can read the Merck. So can you. At least
- Peter used the dictionary...
-
- > Hmmm. I don't have my dictionary with me, but it gave a chemical formula
- > for digoxin, and it was NOT the same one it gave for digitoxin, which it
- > identified as the chief active ingredient of digitalis.
- >
- > This was Merriam-Webster's 9th Intercollegiate Dictionary (Larry Margolis,
- > take note! Mark contradicted you rather badly about fertilized eggs)
- > published in 1990.
-
- --
-
- Steve Matheson Program in Neuroscience University of Arizona
- sfm@neurobio.arizona.edu
-