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- From: smezias@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Nyikos using Steeves as an excuse to be foolish.
- Message-ID: <34617@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU>
- Date: 24 Dec 92 01:48:10 GMT
- References: <nyikos.724975331@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <34544@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU> <nyikos.725143125@milo.math.scarolina.edu>
- Organization: NYU Stern School of Business
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- In article <nyikos.725143125@milo.math.scarolina.edu>
- nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
-
- >>I saw the original post in which Will stated that he felt like killing
- >>the woman he had impregnated for not respecting his opinion regarding
- >>whether she should be an incubator for his fetus.
- >You not only have changed the charge from the way you originally
- >worded it, you show evidence of having very poor reading comprehension,
- >or memory, or both.
-
- What change is it that you think is so meaningful? While this may not
- be word for word what I posted, the meaning is the same.
-
- >And I'm not saying this because of the ridiculous "incubator" talk,
- >which marks you as a person with strong pro-abortion leanings (see
- >my post on new definitions for the FAQ, specifically the entry
- >"pro-abortion"). No, even if you had worded your charge in a less
- >nonstandard way, I still would have said what I did.
-
- The terminology is used by those of us who favor abortion rights for
- women as a metaphor. When women are denied abortion rights, they are
- allowed no more volition with respect to continuing a pregnancy than
- an incubator has a choice not to support any fetus placed in it. What
- strikes you as ridiculous about this?
-
- >One year after the deed was done? Even Dean Kaflowitz gave no hint
- >of extrasensory powers of this magnitude. Time travel! Ability
- >to alter the past! Why, even fanatical Christians are reluctant
- >to attribute to "all-powerful" God the ability to change the past!
-
- I really didn't think that forming beliefs about Will's intentions
- require extrasensory powers. As I said, I did not interpret the post
- as reporting that WIll honestly considered ending her life; I don't
- think interpretation of motives from the posted word. Many of us on
- planet Earth have beliefs about the intentions of others quite
- frequently without attributing them to extrasensory powers.
-
- >I even added some arguments above (I hope you can read them better
- >than you did Will's post) in case you have second thoughts about
- >what you have just said.
-
- I cannot believe that you honestly think you have ever posted anything
- that would lead anyone to have first, let alone second, thoughts. I
- have no idea why you are bent on denying women autonomy over their own
- bodies by giving special rights to /z/e/f/s, but you certainly are
- making an ass of yourself advocating that position.
-
- SJM
-