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- From: noonan@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Michael P Noonan)
- Subject: Re: Reconciling OT with NT
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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:13:51 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec21.041610.42537@watson.ibm.com>, margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes:
- |> In <1992Dec21.012812.8797@mksol.dseg.ti.com> noonan@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Michael P Noonan) writes:
- |> |> >Perhaps someone could explain the difference to me, but if your fighting
- |> |> >for the right for people to have abortions, aren't you pro-abortion?
- |> |>
- |> |> No, because you're not fighting for people to *have* abortions, but for them
- |> |> to have the *right* to *choose* abortion, if that's what they feel is best
- |> |> in their particular situation.
- |> |>
- |> |> >Who cares whether or not you would use that right yourself, if you are
- |> |> >pro-abortion-rights, you are pro-abortion.
- |> |>
- |> |> Not only are you wrong, but by referring to them as pro-abortion, you're
- |> |> insulting many pro-choicers who are against abortion, but nevertheless
- |> |> feel that forcing their moral beliefs on others through laws would be
- |> |> a greater evil.
-
- It just occured to me as I was reading my response to you that this seems
- rather strange and anarchical. I am against murder and stealing, but I
- have no problem supporting passage of laws preventing these acts. In
- other words, I am forcing my morals on others in regards to these acts. Do
- these pro-choicers whom you mention object to "forcing their moral beliefs
- on others through laws" in *all* cases or only on abortion. If only on
- abortion, then what makes this issue so different that one cannot "force
- one's morals" on another, while it is OK to "force one's morals" on another
- when it comes to stealing. And if they support it on all issues, why are
- they not mobilizing to repeal any other laws that impose morals.
-
- What are laws if not an attempt to force majority morals on the minority?
-
- Also, why should the federal government have jurisdiction here. What is
- the precedent for the federal government to become involved in what
- clearly seems to be a state issue to me. There are no federal laws
- against murder or stealing (unless it involves state borders or government
- property). Why is abortion special in this respect?
-
- These are honest questions. I expect some flames, but I would love for
- someone to calmly present a few answers, for indeed, I am no expert and
- am new to this forum.
-
- -Mike Noonan
-