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- From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
- Subject: Re: Reconciling OT with NT
- Message-ID: <nyikos.724980720@milo.math.scarolina.edu>
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- Organization: USC Department of Computer Science
- References: <1992Dec11.061923.21368@netcom.com> <1992Dec18.003658.13726@noao.edu> <1992Dec18.025920.26701@bnr.ca> <1992Dec18.203513.20450@netcom.com> <adams.724724398@spssig>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 23:32:00 GMT
- Lines: 105
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- In <adams.724724398@spssig> adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
-
- >madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann) writes:
-
- >>bcash@crchh410.BNR.CA (Brian Cash) writes: >
- >>forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes: >>
- >>>|>Sure, if you stop forcing death on unborn children.
- >>
- >>No one believes you, Suzanne. You lied. Now you're going
- >>straight to H-E-L-L!
-
- >No, she can conveeeeniently go to confession and say a few Our Father's and
- >Hail Mary's and she's all set.
-
- >>>Maddi is killing unborn children! Wow! How did you find this out?
- >>>Is this true, Maddi!?! How many have you killed?
- >>
- >>Well, I had two eggs in an omelette on Sunday, does that count?
- >>I suppose a Christian would claim I've killed hundreds of
- >>unborn children because I've never been pregnant, and allowed
- >>all those potential lives to waste away every month.
-
- >Hardly all...I'm a Christian, an Evangelical to boot, anti-abortion, yet
- >pro-choice. Strange eh?
-
- Anti-abortion???????????????????????
-
- When will you get your act together, Steve?
-
- From a post you made recently, with commentary by me in brackets.
-
- *************************** ADAMS POST ****************************
-
- Elizabeth Cornelia Green <eg1o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
-
- >Boy do you have some messed up ideas!
-
- Pot. Kettle. Black.
-
- [He does not spare an obvious newbie.]
-
- >You think abortions should be used as a source of birthcontrol if
- >necessary?!? And that the practice of abstinence is a ridiculous
- >solution?!?!! Wow you're confused.
-
- Hmm...I wonder who is confused...
-
- [Steve Adams is more confused than Elizabeth Green was, IMO.]
-
- >Abstinence is the only good method of birth control. It's obviously the
- >only 100% certain method.
-
- Wrong. Abstinence does not protect one from rape.
-
- [One of TWO good statements Adams makes in this post.]
-
- >If a couple considers themselves adult enough to engage in sex, they
- >should face the adult responsibilities that might accompany the action.
-
- Yep. And one of those is dealing with pregnancy. Abortion is a
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- responsible option in the face of that responsibility.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- [This is standard fare by liberal Lutherans. In Adams' mouth,
- it is regurgitated, undigested pabulum that he swallowed whole from them.]
-
- >And making sure that the child that results from your actions is cared
- >for is an obvious responsibility. I strongly believe that killing that
- >child through an abortion is not facing your responsibilities.
-
- Bringing a child into the world is not always the responsible thing to do.
-
- [More undigested, regurgitated pabulum.]
-
- >Sure, sex may be fun, but be prepared to deal with all that it entails
- >No Sex is Safe Sex.
-
- Abortion *is* a way of dealing with it.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- [In case you haven't caught on yet!]
-
- >Everybody knows that there isn't any condom that guarantees no pregnancy
- >will result. And they don't prevent the horrible diseases that can
- >result from sex, either.
-
- But they do help. They give a level of protection. One asseses the risks
- and weighs the options.
-
- >Hope I don't sound too old fashioned. But I'm only nineteen and I've
- >already been able to figure this out. What's the matter with the rest
- >of you?
-
- I've figured things out...I personally object to abortion...but I beleive
- it needs to be legal. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- ******************************* END OF ADAMS POST *********************
-
- Of course, he has NOT figured it out, otherwise he would not have said
- the last set of highlighted words after regurgitating that pabulum. He has
- let a bunch of Lutheran heretics--heretics to the traditions of
- Lutheranism, that is--do his figuring for him.
-
- Peter Nyikos
-
-