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From: [e-mail] (Larry Margolis)
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael P Noonan) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gordon Storga) writes:
>|> <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael P Noonan) writes:
>|> >
>|> >First of all, I'd like to point out that most pro-abortionists or
>|> >pro-choicers are Christian.  Secondly, there do exist atheists who
>|> >are pro-life/anti-abortion.  So, just what exactly are you implying here?
>|>
>|> Sorry Mike, but the three admitted pro-abortioners on this net are hardly
>|> Christian.  I'd like to know where you get your stats.
>
>I admit that I don't have any statistics to
>flash around, but I know many pro-abortionists that are Christian.

I'd tend to doubt it.

>Do you really think that the whole pro-choice movement is run by atheists?

No, he was talking about the three people on the net who claim to be
pro-abortion; he was saying *nothing* about the millions of us who are
pro-choice.

>Understand, that I use the terms pro-abortion and pro-choice synonymously.

If you want to be understood, you probably shouldn't.

>Perhaps someone could explain the difference to me, but if your fighting
>for the right for people to have abortions, aren't you pro-abortion?

No, because you're not fighting for people to *have* abortions, but for them
to have the *right* to *choose* abortion, if that's what they feel is best
in their particular situation.

>Who cares whether or not you would use that right yourself, if you are
>pro-abortion-rights, you are pro-abortion.

Not only are you wrong, but by referring to them as pro-abortion, you're
insulting many pro-choicers who are against abortion, but nevertheless
feel that forcing their moral beliefs on others through laws would be
a greater evil.

To pick an extreme example, think of people defending the rights of Nazis
to speak.  They might be pro-free-speech for Nazis, but that's a far cry
from being pro-Nazi.

>This is definitely one discussion in which I do not wish to get entangled.
>I thought my first point was self-evident, and was not prepared to
>defend it with stats.  My second point, I thought, was definitely not
>apparent to Suzanne Forgach, but true since I know of at least one (i.e. me).
>Her implication that atheists and atheists alone support abortion is false,
>so I felt obligated to post.

And your implication that pro-choice = pro-abortion is false, as (apparently)
is your claim that most pro-abortionists (as opposed to pro-choicers) are
Christian.  Gordon felt obliged to correct you on the latter point, and I
feel obliged to correct you on the former.
--
Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), [e-mail] (Internet)