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- From: dvp@oasis.icl.co.uk (Dave Parry)
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- Subject: Re: Male Choice, How?
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- Date: 21 Dec 92 17:43:44 GMT
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- karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger) writes:
- >
- > I think the best way to do this is to require >both< parties to sign the
- > same form. That way the man knows at the time its signed that the woman
- > won't abort the fetus, and the woman knows the man can't legally run off.
- >
- > That is, there is mutual assent.
- >
- > I like it.
-
- The only problem is Karl is that, as has been pointed out here a
- number of times, it is a woman's right to change her mind and abort
- or not as she pleases. It is not a man's right to support or not as he
- pleases. I can't believe that if an agreement was signed (whereby the
- man would not be obligated to support a child he did not want) and the
- women decided to keep it and go to court for support, that the judge
- would rule in the man's favour. I'm also sure that her legal council
- would have a (probably successful) go at ruling the agreement
- unconstitutional. One way or another, they'll make you pay.
-
- As some have said earlier, the only sure way is to get the snip.
-
- > Which I believe this change would do. Only a foolish woman would have a
- > child which she could not afford if she could not bill the man for half the
- > cost -- and men would have no reason to "run off" on their kids, as they
- > wouldn't be responsible for them unless they wanted them in the first place.
-
- A 'sensible' woman would not make love to someone without making damn
- sure she was 'protected', irrespective of who's responsibility
- contraception 'should' be.
- >
- > I fully support holding people to their agreements in this area; the key is
- > consent.
- >
- > --
- > Karl Denninger (karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM, <well-connected>!ddsw1!karl)
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- Dave
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