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- From: mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor)
- Subject: Dating, religion, hypocrisy
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- Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 19:22:17 GMT
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- In article <+dtr4hq@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
- >
- >For sake of sanity, I split this into two articles, this one talks about
- >religion and society, and followups to talk.religion, the next talks
-
- Since I don't have any sanity to begin with, I brought it back to soc.singles
- and dating, which is what it was about in the first place.
-
- >>Why is it any more of a close-minded criterium then any other criteria like
- >>intelligence, humor, physical characteristc, geographic location, level
- >>of education, lifestyle compatibility, sexual preference, etc?
-
- >No, no, its archaic for running a society, not for getting laid.
-
- To begin with, I didn't ask why it was archaic, but why it was any more
- close-minded than any other criterium. I don't disagree that it is
- archaic, but I suspect we disagree on the negative implications that
- surround that adjective.
-
- >People will
- >always and forever have their own criteria for choosing thier sexual
- >partners.
-
- Exactly. And for a great many, those sexual partners are also LIFE
- partners. It is not uncommon for people to prefer their life partners
- to share similar and/or common beliefs, whatever those beliefs are.
-
- >>Religion is a set of beliefs and if you truly believe, then you must
- >>abide by the sanctions of that belief system. To not do so, is
- >>hypocrisy and I have a great deal less tolerance for this than I do
- >>for religious belief.
- >
- >Who sez?
- >I'm not allowed to belive in God because I think that hokum rituals, from
- >kosher foods to eating representational peices of bread to marching a bunch
- >of times around a big rock to lighting candles and dancing nude under the moon,
- >the whole lot of 'em, I'm not allowed to believe in God because I think those
- >rituals are silly?
-
- Whoa!
- Where ever did I say such a thing?
-
- I said religion is a set of beliefs. Do you refute this?
- I cite my Random House college dictionary :
-
- Religion- 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of
- the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a
- superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional
- and ritual observances and often having a moral code for the
- conduct of human affairs.
-
-
- I made no mention of YOUR belief system or mine for that matter.
-
- My original statement says "if you truly believe", whatever those beliefs
- may be, if you have embraced them and adopted them and agree to conduct
- your life by them, to not do so, is hypocrisy.
-
- You believe that organised, ritualistic religious beliefs are silly, then it
- would hypocritical for you to suggest to someone to go to church. It would
- be equally hypocritical for anyone who professes to follow a set of
- religious beliefs that forbids marriage outside of one's faith, to do so.
-
- However, the original point was that limiting ones search by ANY criteria
- may be an exercise in close-minededness, but so what? Why is that
- necessarily a bad thing? Why would limiting your search to people who
- share your beliefs, to people who don't believe in organised religion, be
- a bad thing? Personally, I don't believe it is.
-
- This isn't about people you work with, people you hang with, this is about
- people you plan to live with and possibly breed with. I consider it an
- exercise in aggrivation reduction and increasing the likelyhood of
- compatibility.
-
- If you can't stand stupid people, you have a criteria of lower level
- intelligence bounds, and you aren't going to seek out, nor be comfortable
- with unintelligent people. It would drive you crazy.
-
- If you are a person who uses humor and values humor, you may decide it's
- not a good idea to get involved with someone who doesn't have a sense of
- humor or doesn't appreciate a sense of humor. Again, you have established
- YOUR criteria.
-
- >God is god is god, and I would be willing to bet that god cares more about
- >things like 'peace' and 'love' and 'people getting along' than he does about
- >if you eat the wrong type of food.
-
- Quite possibly. But, what if it's just an exercise is being able to
- follow directions? The point is, you don't know, I don't know and I
- don't know anybody else who does. However, I do know lots of folks
- who run on faith, a belief.
-
-
-
- --
- I'm in a phone booth at the corner of Walk and Don't Walk.
- -- Unknown
-