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- From: sharon@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Sharon Curtis)
- Newsgroups: soc.singles
- Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.143458.1789@flint.comlab.ox.ac.uk>
- Date: 30 Dec 92 14:34:58 GMT
- References: <4506@cvbnetPrime.COM> <1992Dec29.172417.11540@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> <4516@cvbnetPrime.COM>
- Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK
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- Originator: sharon@flint.comlab
-
- In one article, Shelley wrote that she wanted an eligible Jewish man
-
- In another article, Tim wrote (amongst other things):
- > Well, call me crazy Shelley, but did you ever consider dating someone
- > who, (GASP), wasn't Jewish?
-
- In a further article, Michael wrote:
- > Tim, stuff it. Didn't you read what she wrote? Her religion forbids it.
- > You can call religion an archaic basis for mating, but the majority of
- > the world happens not to agree with you.
-
- In a further article, Tim wrote:
- >Ohhhhh, stuff it huh!
- ...
- >Second: So if you met a wonderful ethnic woman whom you loved very
- > much, and couldn't live without, you would pass her up on
- > religious grounds?
-
-
- For goodness, sake, Tim! (and anyone else who thinks that religious
- beliefs are irrelevant to relationships)
- Try learning a little something.
-
- It is vitally important that for two people in a committed relationship,
- their religious beliefs are compatible!!!
-
- Some combinations of beliefs won't have much trouble, like for
- example I imagine the following combinations are ok -
- Agnostic-Agnostic
- Atheist-Atheist
- Agnostic-Atheist
- Christian(Methodist)-Christian(Baptist)
-
- but for others it can create *terrible* problems in a relationship!
- I don't have much experience of things from the Jewish perspective,
- but I have some from the Christian perspective.
- I know a couple that had compatible beliefs when they married,
- but the woman became a Christian so that they had a
- Christian-Atheist
- combination, which was the precipitating factor in their divorce.
- As a Christian, the woman put God first, and her husband second.
- The man wanted her to put him first, and God second.
- VITAL CLASH OF BELIEFS!
- If both are Atheists, then that's fine, cos they don't believe in
- God anyway, and if both are Christians, then they both put God first.
-
- There can be problems from religion even if couples have the same
- belief. Take the example of two atheists, one of whom is a
- Jew by *race* (note being descended from Abraham and believing
- in Judaism are two different things), and the other is a Gentile.
- Even though the couple's beliefs are compatible, I understand that
- the Jew could come under tremendous pressure from the family
- to marry another Jew.
-
- So yes, sure, you can date people of whatever religion you like,
- but if you know that relationships with people of certain religions
- would not work out for you in the long term, then maybe you had
- either better avoid dating these people, or prepare yourself
- for heartbreak if you date one and fall in love and come up against
- religion problems.
-
- Shelley is actually being pretty sensible!
-
- Someone mentioned "core beliefs". I think that what I've said above
- about compatability is relevant to core beliefs in general.
-
- Sharon
-