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- From: pooh@Apple.COM (Wendy Nather)
- Newsgroups: soc.singles
- Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
- Message-ID: <75928@apple.apple.COM>
- Date: 24 Dec 92 14:20:21 GMT
- References: <1992Dec23.155614.14751@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> <08yO03zdc6Mp00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> <1992Dec23.222003.6753@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>
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- In the referenced article, krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith) writes:
- >
- >If I say something like:
- > "Maybe you could take me out next time."
- >That would not be an ultimatum/demand, but a _suggestion_, that she could
- >take or leave, as she will. The only person that this might offend, is a
- >woman who thinks that she is "too good" to spend any of her own money
- >on a man, or one who thinks that the man is "supposed" to pay all of the
- >time.
-
- Keith, I don't like your suggestion, and here's why. As a woman
- who does indeed ask men out, and who pays even if invited, I
- consider treating someone to a dinner to be a gift, and I think
- it's crass to ask for a gift. So your actions would be the
- equivalent of giving me a gift and then saying hopefully,
- "Maybe you could give me a gift too." Well, maybe I was planning
- to, but your crass suggestion just put me right off my feed.
- I don't like having someone tell me when to give him gifts
- that I would otherwise have freely given.
-
- This also reminds me of people who keep very careful track
- of every instance of give-and-take in the relationship to
- make absolutely sure they don't give more then 50%. After
- exactly one gift, you want to make sure you get yours too.
- This attitude is also an enormous turnoff for me. I hate
- bean-counters in a relationship.
-
- If I got into a relationship with a man where I felt
- *over time* that I was giving a lot more than he was,
- I'd approach the subject by saying I thought our relationship
- was very one-sided. But I would not ask for gifts to
- balance my internal checkbook.
-
- Pooh
- pooh@apple.com
-