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- From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
- Subject: Re: How come we aren't getting it?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.071203.20008@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
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- Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
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- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 07:12:03 GMT
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- U60703@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
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- ] My feelings are that you are an intelligent/friendly group of people...
- ] (okay ...well...sometimes silly/immature/irrational...but...hey...who's
- ] perfect? :)
-
- Gosh, you say "silly/immature/irrational" almost as if it were a bad
- thing.
-
- ] The responses taught me a great deal about what men think...how they
- ] peceive things...(never figure them out though :)......I concluded that
- ] most of us men/women are looking for the same things in a relationship
- ] (pretty much anyway).....we all want/need love, companionship, acceptance,
- ] emotional/sexual intimacy, effective communication, understanding,
- ] support.......etc.
- ]
- ] My Ques -> So how come we aren't getting it? Why are we still closing off
- ] that part of ourselves that may enable us to learn to under-
- ] stand each other so we can mutually get what we desire???
-
- Well, first of all, it's not quite that simple: not only do you want
- love, intimacy, support, sharing etc., you want it from the right
- person--and, just to make things more difficult, that person has to be
- able to supply these things to you and want to do so.
-
- This, of course, makes things much more difficult--a rather large
- portion of the population only wants love/understanding/intimacy/etc.
- from those who can't or won't give it to them. There are lots of
- reasons for this, ranging from the perception that people who can or
- will become emotionally close aren't exciting or challenging to the
- common unspoken belief that you're an unworthy person and, consequently,
- anyone who would love you must not be worth loving back to the popular
- tendency to focus on "the one that got away" and pine away for him or
- her and not respond to other options.
-
- Regardless of the reason, if you're such a person, then you're pretty
- much out of luck--anyone who can and will supply the desired emotional
- goals is automatically out of the running--and if you're in the habit of
- getting involved with such people, well, you're going to find success a
- difficult thing to achieve.
-
- I know a few people who follow this paradigm flawlessly--for example,
- one woman I know is emminently relationshipable (if that wasn't a word
- before, well, it is now) and is looking for a close, committed, long-
- term relationship--but she will only consider men who are are only
- interested in a casual fling; indeed, a complete lack of interest in a
- relationship beyond having an occasional bedpartner when nobody else is
- available seems to be a prerequisite for her to find them attractive.
-
- Then, of course, there are plenty of other quirks of human behavior that
- make getting together difficult. Pulling another example from my
- friends, there's a guy I know who is nice, attractive, and all that sort
- of stuff, but a bit of a wallflower in public. Now, he's gone the last
- few years without anyone being particularly interested in him, until a
- month or two ago when another friend of mine decided that he was really
- interesting and that emminently worthy of being seriously involved with.
- Now, naturally, as soon as her interest became generally known, a half-
- dozen of her female friends and acquaintances all immediately decided
- that they wanted to date him. (This situation has not sorted itself out
- yet and he may end up hiding in the cellar or something.)
-
- Finally, there's the difficult matter of finding the right people and
- determining that they are, in fact, the right people. Given the
- diversity of communication styles, relationship goals, spending habits,
- and so forth, you may have to go through a lot of people to find one who
- is truly compatible for more than a weekend. Not only can each
- determination of compatibility take some time, most people don't meet
- all that many people outside their own social circle very often.
-
- ] So...what do you all think?...which way do we need to go from here?
-
- A little to the left...now lower...ok, just a little bit harder....
-
- Trygve
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