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- From: gklein@uoft02.utoledo.edu (Gary Klein, bear-at-heart)
- Newsgroups: soc.motss
- Subject: Re: EE statements (was: Re: Attention Skiers Boycotting Colorado)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.225332.769@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
- Date: 31 Dec 92 22:53:32 EST
- References: <1992Dec31.171339.28754@PacBell.COM> <1hven4INN8ri@hp-col.col.hp.com>
- Organization: Univ of Toledo
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- In article <1hven4INN8ri@hp-col.col.hp.com>, smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith)
- writes:
- > rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:
-
- >> ... And bennies like
- >> Tuition Aid, gym membership, credit union membership, special
- >> life insurance group rates, for example, are usually not made
- >> available to unmarried partners (and their dependants)...
-
- > Agreed. I don't know that these are EE issues, though.
- ||Employment
- Equal
-
- What do you think the word EQUAL means?
-
- How can ANYONE say that they stand behind their EQUAL rights and EQUAL
- employment opportunities guidebooks, and then stand their and deny ME & MY
- spouse EMPLOYEE benefits which are designed to make employees Happier & Better
- employees!
-
- "Some people are created more equal than others"
-
- Why should only HETEROSEXUAL spouses be given such benefits as:
- 1) TUITION REIMBURSEMENT
- 2) HEALTH CLUB/GYM REIMBURSEMENT
- 3) BEREAVEMENT LEAVE with pay
- 4) HOMEYMOON LEAVE with pay (Zsa Zsa Gabor & Mickey Rooney make out like
- bandits at some companies that give a full
- weeks worth of extra vacation with EACH marriage)
- 5) CREDIT UNION MEMBERSHIP
- 6) SPOUSAL EMPLOYMENT ASSISTANCE (when relocating the principal employee to
- another region/division)
- 7) INVITATIONS TO ATTEND COMPANY FUNCTIONS
- -picnics -awards dinners -holiday dinners -dances -bowling nights
- -retirement parties
- 8) VACTIONS & TRIPS AS BONUSES or conferences at resorts
- -often time specifying "husbands/wives only" when the company picks up the
- entire tab for the resort trip
- 9) MEDICAL INSURANCE
- 10) DENTAL INSURANCE
- 11) OPTICAL INSURANCE
- 12) RIGHTS OF SURVIVORSHIP on specific employee benefit plans:
- -Employee Stock Options
- -Employee Stock Purchas Plans
- -Profit Sharing Plans
- -Pension Plans
- -Peformance/Bonus Plans
- 13) PERSONAL PHONE CALLS AT THE OFFICE
- Some employers specifically have written policies allowing 1 personal
- phone call per day to "family members", but where does that put the homosexual
- employee?
-
- That was the NUMBER ONE reason why I came out to my co-workers when I
- worked at the Bank. Everyone else in my department would know in an instant if
- their spouse was calling up, but why should our secretary treat my boyfriend
- simply as "someone who tried contacting while you were in a meeting", instead
- of interrupting the meeting as would be done for husbands/wives.
-
- I AM SURE THAT I LEFT OUT SOME OTHER SPOUSAL RELATED
- BENEFITS THAT ADD UP RATHER QUICKLY... the purpose of
- "employee benefits" is to offer non-monetary incentives
- which make THAT particular workplace a more interesting
- place for the employee to be MORE PRODUCTIVE and operate
- in a less stressfull environment.
-
- Why should SOME employees be denied access to these benefits?
-
- Why should corporations worry about the "concept" of Equal Employment?
- Does each employer have the RIGHT to limit each and every employee/spousal
- benefit as they see fit, and still be exempt from prosecution under EEOC
- regulations?
-
- Walter discusses this:
- > ...
- > Because they are the company, and that is their right. If they
- > think it is good business to pay people who either have a family
- > or are likely to be saving for one (married people) that is
- > their perogative. It may seem unfair, but I don't know that
- > it qualifies as an EE problem...
-
- Walter, how would you feel if your employer turned out to be a gay rights
- activist, and revoked everyone of those 13 spousal benefits that I listed, from
- YOU, while granting those benefits to your homosexual coworkers!
-
- "But that is a hypothetical example you are raising"
-
- Yeah, but that still doesn't answer how YOU would feel if you found out
- that you were denied THIRTEEN EMPLOYEE BENEFITS that some of your colleagues
- were receiving.
-
- Do you have a bit more of an understanding as to where some of us are
- coming from, when we froth at the mouth when someone thinks that it is
- perfectly okay to treat homosexuals as second class citizens.
-
- IT IS BAD ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE BASH US, BURN OUR HOUSES DOWN, THROW US INTO
- RIVERS, RUN US DOWN, and then they have the balls to claim that gays are
- working on a "hidden agenda" to get "special rights"!
-
- Special Rights!
-
- I just want to live a quiet & peaceful life! And with the same salary &
- employee benefits as my co-worker who has the same job title, qualifications,
- experience and performance evaluation ratings that I get!
-
- WHAT IS SO SPECIAL ABOUT EQUAL TREATMENT!
-
- "Hate is NOT a family value"
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