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- From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
- Subject: Re: EE statements (was: Re: Attention Skiers Boycotting Colorado)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.191747.5617@PacBell.COM>
- Sender: news@PacBell.COM (Pacific Bell Netnews)
- Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, California
- References: <1992Dec31.171339.28754@PacBell.COM> <1hven4INN8ri@hp-col.col.hp.com>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:17:47 GMT
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- > smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:
- >> rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:
-
- >> >If I'm following you right, you mean a married person can have
- >> >his spouse/dependants on his insurance, but a single person
- >> >can't have his roommate/unmarried SO on it?...
- >>
- >> If by insurance you mean Health Plan, yes.
- >
- >That's what I meant.
- >
- >> But other employers don't usually
- >> offer these benefits to unmarried partners. And bennies like
- >> Tuition Aid, gym membership, credit union membership, special
- >> life insurance group rates, for example, are usually not made
- >> available to unmarried partners (and their dependants)...
- >> in
- >
- >Agreed. I don't know that these are EE issues, though. The
- >problem seems to center around not being able to marry, which
- >would provide the companies with a clear way to determine
- >that they should give bennies to given people. Companies like
- >things nice and neat; and it isn't that way yet. Fix that, a
- >and a lot of these other things should be cleared up.
-
- They're EE issues if the company professes not to discriminate
- on the basis of marital status, don't you think? Or are you
- using the term EE to apply only to federally-mandated stuff?
- Those companies and organizations that have implemented
- Domestic Partner benefit plans have come up with numerous ways
- to determine who is a valid DP, usually requiring an affidavit
- of some kind, and a waiting period between DPs, and sometimes
- requiring proof that the realtionship has lasted for a certain
- length of time. Some of these companies now require married
- couples to leap throught the same bureaucratic hoops.
-
- >> But they don't always have "more responsibilities." If they
- >> don't have children and their spouse is also working, why
- >> should they get more compensation than their single counterparts?
- >> Why does the company arbitrarily decide who "needs it" and
- >> who deosn't, merely on the basis of a marriage certificate?
- >
- >Because they are the company, and that is their right. If they
- >think it is good business to pay people who either have a family
- >or are likely to be saving for one (married people) that is
- >their perogative. It may seem unfair, but I don't know that
- >it qualifies as an EE problem...
-
- Again, if the company claims not to discriminate based on
- marital status, I would say it does.
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