NetNews Usenet Archive 1992 #31/NN_1992_31.iso/spool/soc/motss/54283

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From: [e-mail] (Bob Donahue)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Attention Skiers Boycotting Colorado
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Date: 31 Dec 92 02:59:22 GMT
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[e-mail] (Walter Smith) writes:

    Nothing useful, engaging or pertinent.

    Walter, I'm throwing in the towel too.  You're
contributing nothing new to any of these threads, we KNOW
that a lot of COans were fooled into thinking CO:2 was a
special rights thing, and scared into thinking of the
horrible queer quotas that don't exist.

    You've ranted and call neams and flame-baited, and
when attacked got on your high-horse and said "well, how
can I take you seriously when you act like THIS"?

    You didn't get it with Children of the Rainbow.
We even pointed you to some information (including the source
material that you never bothered to read)... you didn't avail
yourself of it.  You don't get it with CO:2 or gay rights in general,
again we've given you information, and you ignore it.  We've
even suggested ways you can get involved that will give you
first-hand experience on what we go thru and allow you to help
out directly.  Again, whooosssh.  I suspect that this is because
you really AREN'T interested in any of those things, you just
want to put us under your microscope and see how we react to you.

    I'm done reacting.  This is *OUR SPACE*, and you've been
a guest.  IMHO, we shown you more than enough patience, and more than
enough courtesy.  Please take it somewhere else, and leave us in peace.
I'm sure the frequent heterosexual denizens of soc.motss won't miss your
departure either (last free clue: some of the people you've been
arguing with ARE heterosexual just like you - only they *get it*...
you were so wrapped up in Walter_Smith_the_crusading_heterosexual
that you never stopped to think that not everyone here arguing on
our behalf was queer...  I won't say who they were- it's not relevant,
but it's nice to have people around who aren't like me who I don't
have to justify my existence, my rights, my equality or what
comprises any of the three on a continual basis.  They accept
for GRANTED all three --- why? I suppose that for starters they
appreciate humanity in any of its forms.

    We didn't ask you to come here - we have survived quite
well before, and Goddess-willing will do so after you're a memory.
Maybe someday what I'm saying will sink in.

    One last piece of advice.  If you want peace work for justice.
That means not wasting your time here trying to force us into debates
on how many homosexuals can dance on the head of an EE statement.
And no, I'm not choosing to engage you because I can't or because I'm
afraid of you or what you have to say...  I choose to do this because
you've convinced me that there IS no answer that will suit you that
allows me to be on equal footiung with you.  I can't accept those
answers, so there's no point in playing your reindeer games.

    Goodbye --- and don't worry, my KILL file works.

[Aside to anyone still bothered to read this]

    Well, of course W*lt*r isn't nearly as bad as most of the
resident phobes we've had, because mostly I don't think he's truly
phobic, but I think that he's sort of a "nice Cramer" if you will...
He doesn't have it in for us the same way Cr*m*r does, not at all,
but has the same "expectations": to wit, "if you don't agree with
me there's something wrong with you...".  Snore.

    I think we tried our best...  I think it's now time to
sit on our hands.  Maybe he'll get the clue.

BBC