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- From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
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- Subject: Re: Dworkin (was Re: Liberty)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.195317.19279@spdcc.com>
- Date: 30 Dec 92 19:53:17 GMT
- Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Dec30.195317.19279
- References: <1992Dec30.002132.28426@macc.wisc.edu> <1992Dec30.013604.8299@asuvax.eas.asu.edu> <1992Dec30.145823.7995@tc.cornell.edu>
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- In article <1992Dec30.145823.7995@tc.cornell.edu> shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore) writes:
- >The point is that not everything Dworkin says is drivel,
- >yet men (in particular) get so overwrought when they hear
- >what she says about them that they dismiss everything.
-
- Ahem. Generally, if someone comes to a completely stooopid conclusion,
- people are going to dismiss everything they say. This happens all the
- time here (and elsewhere); there's no need to remind ourselves! What
- does that say about Dworkin's skills as a polemicist? As agitprop
- speaking to the appropriate audience, it's great. It doesn't carry very
- far in a larger audience which isn't tuned into her language and assumptions.
- It reminds me a bit of the "we will rape your teenage boys" tract written
- by an (overwrought) gay activist which was discussed here a while back.
- What are the Walter Smiths of this world going to think? Everyone's a
- Walter Smith in one way or another...
-
- >Like ???, my concern over Andrea Dworkin has more to do
- >with her paternalism and her campaign against the first
- >amendment. It's troubling to me that rather than accepting
- >the fact that adults sometimes (often) willingly enter into
- >unequal relatioships and it's none of her damned business,
- >she's trying to put some pretty narrow strictures on what
- >kinds of decisions individual adults should be able to make.
-
- His name is ????. :-) Anyway, would I be wrong in stating that most
- of us here would agree with you?
-
- As I said before, I don't think Dworkin would get the attention she does
- outside of feminist circles if she weren't instrumental in trying to have
- her ideas embodied in civil law. Like it or not, this gets attention and
- comments in a way that her ideas don't.
-
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- Steve Dyer
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