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- From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
- Newsgroups: soc.motss
- Subject: Re: Anger, Dworkin and ACT-UP
- Date: 29 Dec 1992 10:15:15 -0800
- Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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- References: <1992Dec26.171035.12605@news.acns.nwu.edu> <1hoi7rINN2br@shelley.u.washington.edu> <5fprn8b@lynx.unm.edu>
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- In article <5fprn8b@lynx.unm.edu>
- rkelly@carina.unm.edu (Robert Kelly) writes:
- > In article <1hoi7rINN2br@shelley.u.washington.edu>
- > rhiann@carson.u.washington.edu (Sandy --not Sandra) writes:
- > >It is pretty much a gay truism these days, that radical groups like
- > >Act-up are *necessary* to make the more mainstream groups look mainstream,
- > >i.e., without ACT-UP, HRCF would look radical to the bible belt.
-
- With or without ACT-UP, HRCF and Lambda Legal Defense
- and <insert non-radical lesbigay group of your choice
- here> look radical to the Bible belt.
-
- [ ... ]
- > I think this has to do with no culturally-acceptable way to vent anger
- > and rage (or grief, for that matter). We hear someone like Dworkin, or
- > Petrellis, and think -- "What a angry person"--totally disclaiming what
- > they are saying because they can't be nice about it.
-
- When I read Dworkin, I don't think, "What an angry person."
- I think in terms of pathology, and say to myself, "This woman
- needs help."
-
- > I personally believe we need to get rid fo the Anger=Irrationality
- > principle and start listening more carefully to someone when they are angry.
-
- In general, yes. Wrt Dworkin, no. Her problem with men
- is so deep and intractable that she consider gay male
- sexuality a threat to women. She's sick. She needs therapy.
-
- Arne
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