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- From: pauli@sgi.com (Paul Isaacs)
- Newsgroups: soc.motss
- Subject: Re: Congratulating (het) parents on their new baby
- Date: 23 Dec 1992 18:05:27 GMT
- Organization: Silicon Graphics
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- In article <2@bbx.basis.com> scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) writes:
- >In article <Bzo2DH.DFx@cs.columbia.edu> ji@cs.columbia.edu (John Ioannidis) writes:
- >>[het couple wants a medal for making a baby]
- >
- >Let's summerize:
- > 1. Heterosexual orientation is the result of deliberate, conscious
- > endeavor (i.e. one definition of "choice").
- > 2. Heterosexuality requires full institutionalized support with
- > complete suppression of homosexual ideas.
- > 3. Het men want to be congratulated for achieving heterosexuality.
- >I think what we have here is a concept of a natural, default homosexual
- >orientation and the question of "choice" to accept the orientation or
- >work at suppressing it in favor of acceptance in society. When one meets
- >with a level of success at this all-consuming process it is understandable
- >that he will want his dues, an announcement in the newspaper, his special
- >rights and priviledges, or at least a congratulatory greeting card.
-
-
- This ties into something I've been wondering about.
- It seems that in Roman Catholic circles, the big bad sin is to perform a gay
- sex act; but there's not much in there about it being evil to have a
- tendency towards your own sex versus opposite sex.
-
- So, it's sort of like they realize that it's perfectly natural to desire
- the same sex. It's just that you have to overcome the desire, beat it down,
- deny it, just like anything else fun in life.
-
- So you can be gay and go to heaven (I personally would rather that the
- Saint re-open) as long as you never have sex. Yes?
-
- pauli.
-