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- From: robj@netcom.com (Rob Jellinghaus)
- Subject: Re: JON the bigot, Steve Giammarco an enlightened one ,(Re: ,,,)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.081447.21793@netcom.com>
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- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 08:14:47 GMT
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- Ah ha ha ha ha!!! Zeke-o really outdoes himself this time! I'm leaving
- to visit my family tomorrow morning and so won't be posting until end of
- next week, but Zeke's latest was just too precious to pass up.
-
- In article <23DEC199200542313@zeus.tamu.edu> olw7845@zeus.tamu.edu (Zeke E. Pez) writes:
- >Your argument seems at first to be a very
- >strong and valid (like that facsade of CONSENTING ADULTS)
-
- And by the way, Zeke, I notice you completely ignored all the posts we
- last replied to you with. What's the matter, is it easier to repeat
- yourself and ignore your opponents than to actually come up with an
- argument?
-
- >In a free society, people are allowed to think anything they like, no
- >matter how *PEDOPHOBIC* it is. What they should not do is to act out their
- >*PEDOPHOBIC* fantasies in a way that impacts other people.
-
- Um, what does this mean? People are allowed to think "pedophobic"
- things? What does that mean, that people can be scared of kids if
- they want to? You're babbling already, Zeke, and we've only been
- playing this game for a week.
-
- Assuming you meant "pedophiliac", then yes, pedophiles are allowed
- to think pedophiliac thoughts, but not allowed to act them out in
- a way that impacts other people--i.e. children.
-
- >In a free society, people are allowed to think anything they like, no
- >matter how *GAY or JEWISH* it is. What they should not do is to act out their
- >*GAY or JEWISH* fantasies in a way that impacts other people.
-
- Sure. In what way does being "GAY or JEWISH" impact other people? Be
- real specific, now. How is being "GAY or JEWISH"--and acting "GAY or
- JEWISH"--comparable to being a pedophile who's molesting children?
- Or comparable to being a Nazi who's killing people?
-
- >But Hey, many experts have concluded that *Gay behaviour* is inhereted so
- >why should we try and stifle the GAY community.
- >
- >But Hey, many experts have concluded that *Anti-Gay behaviour* is inhereted so
- >why should we try and stifle the Anti-GAy community.
- >
- >I hope that I have shown that the LOGIC used in many arguments on this news
- >group is purely circular and really has no conclusions in favor of or against
- >a pro or anti group.
-
- You've proven nothing except that you can cut and paste with your
- editor. What is "gay behavior"? Is it just simply being gay? You're
- right; there is no reason to stifle a gay community because it is gay.
- Gay people interfere with no one. But what, then, is "anti-gay
- behavior"? Sounds to me like discrimination against and bigotry
- towards gay people. In other words, sounds like a behavior that causes
- harm to others. This is why the logic is not circular, Zeke--we just
- want to be left alone, but you and yours want to wipe us out.
-
- >I have never stated how I feel about the HOMOsexual lifestyle, I simply took
- >the ANTITHESIS to the logic and played the devil's advocate!!
-
- And are making an idiot out of yourself in the process. How you feel
- about the HOMOsexual lifestyle is irrelevant.
-
- >In short dear sirs, I will bash you not because you are PRO HOMO
- >but because your arguments violate at least two of three basic
- >and fundamental philosophical MAXIMS (again, I limit my accusation to this
- >news group).
- >
- >1) the UNIVERSAL APPLICATION of many arguments on this group fail!
- >2) the PRESERVATION of AUTONOMY of many arguments on the group fail!
- >3) I have forgotten the third MAXIM but it is out there and this group
- > probably fuck it up too.
-
- ROFL! I'm laughing out loud! Hey, you all, we violate Zeke's Unnamed
- Third Maxim! The sky could fall any minute!!!
-
- >I will not prove why this is so,but I refer you to any freshman level
- >PHILOSOPHY text and it will (or at least should) describe these three MAXIMS.
-
- Please! Anyone who can find the philosophy text Zeke has in mind
- should send it in to the Church of the Subgenius, as it's obviously an
- immortal reference tome.
-
- Zeke, you're a classic. Don't ever change.
-
- >Come on, attack me show everyone how much of a fucking idiot you can make of
- >your self.
- >
- >Come on, Come on ...
-
- OK. This is fun! Your move, Zekehead!
-
- >|-----------------------------------------------|
- >|ZEKE |
- >|olw7845@VENUS.TAMU.EDU |
- >| |
- >|PRO-NOTHING, ANTI-NOTHING, as far as you know! |
- >|-----------------------------------------------|
-
- Y'ain't fooling anyone by removing that crossed-out pink triangle,
- Zeke.
-
- Anyway, that's it for me. Take good care of the Zekester while I'm away,
- everyone! And happy holidays!
-
- --
- Rob Jellinghaus | "Next time you see a lie being spread or a bad
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