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- From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
- Newsgroups: soc.motss
- Subject: Re: Dworkin (was Re: Liberty)
- Message-ID: <mattm-221292174003@mcmelmon.apple.com>
- Date: 23 Dec 92 01:53:27 GMT
- References: <1h6t87INNccf@mizar.usc.edu> <1992Dec22.144024.28676@tc.cornell.edu> <mattm-221292104543@mcmelmon.apple.com> <18220@autodesk.COM>
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- In article <18220@autodesk.COM>, owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley) wrote:
-
- > > *X*
- > > (of course, feminism has *nothing* to do with men, so I suppose
- > > the reaction of men is of no concern. but perhaps, some day,
- > > all these barking bimbos will realize that if *everything* men
- > > do is wrong, then *nothing* they do is wrong, and we can get
- > > back to a more relaxed interaction between the sexes. until
- > > such time, heterosexual men would be well advised to at least
- > > consider the fringe benefits of homosexuality...)
- >
- > Oh Gawd Matthew...
-
- I think I see why this paragraph has attracted so much attention,
- when it was - in fact - somewhat satirical. I was not clear with
- the phrase "if *everything* men do is wrong, then *nothing* they do
- is wrong."
-
- I take it people believe I am saying "nothing men do is wrong,"
- and mean it literally.
-
- In fact, I am saying that there *is* a "wrong" behavior ("true"
- rape) - and that to claim that all sex is rape masks that.
- If all sex is rape, then there is no getting around it -
- and Dworkin has essentially invalidated herself. If *everything*
- a man does is wrong, then he is under no obligation to
- change his behavior - i.e. *nothing* he does is wrong.
-
- *X*
-