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- From: joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis)
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- Subject: Re: Liberty (was something relevant about CO-2 long ago...)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.172603.21477@spdcc.com>
- Date: 22 Dec 92 17:26:03 GMT
- Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Dec22.172603.21477
- References: <1h6t87INNccf@mizar.usc.edu> <1992Dec22.144024.28676@tc.cornell.edu> <1h7hkdINNeuu@mizar.usc.edu>
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- In article <1h7hkdINNeuu@mizar.usc.edu> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec22.144024.28676@tc.cornell.edu>
- >shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore) writes:
- >> In article <1h6t87INNccf@mizar.usc.edu>
- >> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
- >> >There's no reason whatsoever
- >> >to listen to a single word Andrea Dworkin says.
- >>
- >> While I certainly disagree with Dworkin, that won't stop me
- >> from disagreeing with you about her. Her suggestion that
- >> true consensuality can't exist between two people where
- >> there is a gross power imbalance is a valid one.
- >
- >If I thought that were her point, I would of course agree
- >with her.
- >
- >> She then
- >> goes ahead and denies the adulthood of the less empowered
- >> person, and that is her great failing. Just because she's
- >> wrong about a lot doesn't mean that she's wrong about
- >> everything.
- >
- >Perhaps Dworkin isn't wrong about everything, but I see no
- >reason why I, a gay man who has no sexual interest in
- >women whatsoever, should be painted with her extremely
- >broad brush. All men's interest in women, according to
- >Dworkin, is gynocidal. All men are potential rapists.
- >What finally convinced me that she's a complete crackpot,
- >and one not worth taking seriously for even a second,
- >is her claim, in _Intercourse_, that *every* act of penile-
- >vaginal intercourse is actually rape. That she steps up
- >her language -- and really, how can anyone take seriously
- >someone who claims that each specific act of heterosexual
- >intercourse is fully as horrific as the gas chambers at
- >Auschwitz?
-
- I knew there was something about heterosexuality that gave me the
- willies! Dworkin's put her finger right on it! Hitler! How fresh!
- --
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