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- From: comrade@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Peter Cooper)
- Newsgroups: soc.motss
- Subject: Re: Drooling over the "Europa, Europa" guy.
- Date: 22 Dec 1992 15:19:59 +0800
- Organization: The University of Western Australia
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- References: <1992Dec15.045849.1925@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1992Dec15.121329.27008@nstn.ns.ca> <1992Dec19.014916.15129@oracle.us.oracle.com>
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- dgilly@us.oracle.com (Daniel Gilly) writes:
-
- >First, there is an older Nazi soldier who, in one scene, cuts
- >Josef's (the main character) hair. The attention he gives Josef implies
- >some infatuation from the soldier. Later, he surprises
- >Josef during a bath (the intrusion appears to be a forward flirtation).
- >The soldier learns of Josef's secret Jewish identity, which
- >he can hide as long as no one sees his circumcised penis. The
- >soldier keeps this secret, probably because of his attraction to
- >Josef. (Josef had become sort of the "darling" hero of the unit
- >as well.)
-
-
- Hmmmmm. I thought that the lead character (the *dreamy* guy with black,
- curly hair and the wonderful nose) was named Solomon. And that's why
- his nickname was Solly.
-
- And the older soldier, when he discovers Solly's Jewishness, says
- something along the lines of "There are the good Germans, too" ... which
- is further enhanced by Solly's girlfriend's mum. The fact that this
- older soldier didn't make any more passes at Solly, and was more
- interested in being his friend and protector doesn't quite gel with a
- continuing sexual affection.
-
- BTW: are all Europeans uncircumcised like the film implies? It's not
- like Australia ;-)
-
- >That is motss relevance on the more direct level. A second, less
- >obvious example is the fact that Josef is at great risk should
- >anyone (unfriendly) learn his true identity. There is at least
- >one scene in which Josef confesses he is a Jew -- to the mother
- >of a sort-of girlfriend. I found this scene quite poignant, as
- >it portrayed the courage and anguish of standing up for one's
- >identity in the face of grave risk.
-
- Yeah. This is the scene where he is again comforted by a "good german".
- I really was affected a lot by the film. It has a lot in common with
- growing up very closetted, and trying to hide your true identity. And
- after all the collaboration, Solly says "I thought we were shipping them
- [the Jews] off to Madagascar" - closetted, gay, homophobic should take
- note.
-
- Peter
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