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- From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
- Subject: Re: Soc.Motss.* / Automoderation.
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.114142.20478@macc.wisc.edu>
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- Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
- References: <1992Dec20.223503.4350@reed.edu> <1992Dec21.063607.23298@netcom.com> <BzLpMK.M5K@queernet.org>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 11:41:42 GMT
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- In article <BzLpMK.M5K@queernet.org> rogerk@queernet.org
- (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:
-
- (unnecessarily cross-posted)
-
- >In fact, I'm not sure I'd want to face a net, or a
- >soc.motss, without a Clayton or two.
-
- Heh. I'm willing to take the others as they arrive, but the
- genuine article has overstayed his welcome by a considerable
- amount! :-)
-
- <> Epithets like "breeder" and "cocksucker" really aren't parallel,
- <> and can't be. An epithet like "cocksucker" arises from the
- <> *contempt* of one group for those in a stigmatized and/or
- <> marginalized group; such words are commonly used as instruments
- <> of social control, to warn people away from the behaviors of the
- <> marginalized group (I'm sure that strayt boyz use "cocksucker"
- <> much much more often to one another, as part of what I think of
- <> as "masculinity practice." than they do to actual cocksuckers
- <> like me), as well as to throw up a wall of fear and hate between
- <> themselves and the (largely unknown and therefore potentially
- <> dangerous, deeply different and therefore contaminated)
- <> marginalized group.
- <> "Breeder" doesn't work like that at all. There is fear in there
- <> -- fear with a real-life, adrenalin-pumping basis -- and as a
- <> result some hate, too, but the central emotion is *rage*, rage
- <> like that of a dog directed, after long and bitter experience,
- <> against the person who beats it savagely.
- <> -- Arnold M Zwicky (amz@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu)
- --
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